10-07-2020, 04:27 PM
(10-06-2020, 08:34 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I agree to the former, not necessarily with the latter. I would be very happy with changes in lobbying and the influence of money in politics.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, change the rules because he doesn't like them. He doesn't like them because they don't benefit who he prefers. I don't remember him complaining about these rules during Obama's tenure, so your point comes off as rather weak.
As stated, the idea of changing these rules is recent. It has only gained traction because of the last four years, hence the impetus for such cnage is pathetically transparent.
As Bel is abut to explain, this is by design. We don't have a direct democracy by conscious decision, not by accident or happenstance.
You're 90% of the way there, but your final position is flawed, IMO. Yes, the Framers absolutely did not want majority rule. As Franklin famously stated, "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner." But the minority does not rule and everything is working as designed. The House is Dem because more people voted for them. The Senate is GOP because more states have more GOP senators. The POTUS is GOP because they won the Electoral College. All the reasons and arguments for changing this doesn't change the basic point, that people want to change the rules we've operated under for hundreds of years because they don't like the result of the 2016 election. This is childish and short sighted. The system has worked for over two hundred years. It's the oldest democratic republic in the world (is it the longest tenured contiguous government as well?). It has functioned as is for a long time. If you don't like that then change the government via a Constitutional Amendment. Is that too hard, well guess what, that's by design. I have a lot of respect for the intellect and acumen of both you and Bmore, but these calls for radical change ring hollow as sour grapes to me, and millions of others.
You could have asked and saved yourself some words. I have wanted changed since the first time in my adult life an outdated system designed to appease slave owners inserted a moron from the GOP in as president instead of the person the people of this country voted for.
We ended up with massive deficits, two wars, and a collapsing economy.
Then I witnessed some weird turtle man from KY married to a commie who got millions from China seemingly have more power than anyone in our government. Once again proving how broke shit was.
Here we are again sitting here with another massive shit spray on our faces because of the turtle man from ky and a moron from the GOP as president instead of the person the people voted for.
