Why does he refuse to condemn them?

[hollodero]

(10-08-2020, 08:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I largely give serious responses, just not when the question isn't serious.  In your case I am happy to reply as requested in the hopes that you follow suit.  First off, my disdain for Nazi and Hitler comparisons is well known.  They are so loaded that they automatically terminate any serious dialogue.  By choosing to make a direct comparison to Hitler you are indulging in this behavior.  Of course no one with any knowledge of Hitler, with the benefit of nearly 100 years of hindsight and analysis, would read anything into his comments on this topic as anything other than what it was.  Even back then Hitler made his intentions largely known.  Contrast that with Trump.  Is Trump definitively stating that Scandinavian Caucasians have superior genes?  Is Trump even definitively saying that white Minnesotans have superior genes?  If so superior to what?  

He's addressing a crowd.  He stated people in Minnesota have good genes.  He did not exclude any groups living in Minnesota from that statement.  He did not precede his statement with a chapters long diatribe about the superiority of the "Aryan" race compared to the "subhuman" Jew or "insert ethnic minority here".  So while you, and rational others such as Hollodero, can find his comments disturbing and flirting, at best, with the concept of eugenics, a direct comparison to Hitler's statements in Mein Kampf is wholly inappropriate because of what Trump did said, but far more so because of what he did not.  So, insanely inflammatory comparisons to Nazis and Hitler aside, the direct comparison doesn't even withstand scrutiny without those loaded comparison.

Quite simply, and I honestly ask that you not give me a two page answer to this because I find them ponderous (no insult here, I'm being honest), comparisons to Hitler or the Nazis will almost always be met with disdain on my part because of what they represent and how insanely prejudicial they are.

I find that well argued.

What I'd like to add concerning my perspective: I'd rather say he was flirtatious with people believing in eugenics and a superior race. Trump himself, I don't really know what he believes, I don't think he consciously considers anyone but himself superior really. But he is also quite the unreflected person that is influenced by many voices, directly and through media consumption, that very much include the extreme right-wing and the grey areas to actual white supremacists.

And these extremist groups demonstrably do like him, all the David Dukes and friends. I assume they do not see any ambiguity in what Trump says here. For they never did with anything. And a big reason is that Trump, wittingly or unwittingly, keeps using expressions and ways to say things that they consider an endorsement. So goes the theory.

Also, Trump definitely refused to denounce QAnon. I find it surprising how little that is discussed. That man just likes anyone who likes or pretends to like him, to an embarrassing extent. I think it includes extremists that like him.