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Why can't he stop insulting them
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(10-09-2020, 12:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As I’m more of a “light a candle instead of curse the darkness” type dude; allow me to explain the question posed in the OP:

He continues to insult because no one, especially main stream media, holds him accountable. We’ve seen numerous examples of this throughout the thread. Enablers have used techniques such as Ad hominem, false dichotomy, Tu Quogue (Fred basically took over the thread with this one), and Argumentum ad misericordiam.

Um, you've claimed people are guilty of fallacies, but I don't recall seeing any demonstrated. I'll go back and check. 

What does "holding him accountable" look like? Does it look like this? 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/09/trump-slams-biden-for-saying-poor-kids-are-as-talented-as-white-kids.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-risks-alienating-young-black-voters-after-race-remarks/2020/08/08/2035b296-d937-11ea-a788-2ce86ce81129_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/us/politics/joe-biden-barack-obama-south-carolina.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/joe-biden-black-breakfast-club.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-bidens-thinking-muddled-by-racist-concepts-ohio-republican-claims
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/22/861007175/biden-pulls-back-on-cavalier-remarks-about-black-voters
https://news.yahoo.com/video/biden-long-history-racist-remarks-225005936.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEIE_9P2NbELY7g8PVnGDX6UjENolQDD-kMxSWVfjg16nmM3Go42znCrJigMbfSRZiLgRaMCye5PfJxJu-I-2nRzPaLqg1J2KSqZZXmbuA0RY91oaGe23jVnPrOx-L8kRmOcdVf99nlp_pw4VB89Vrps5gH1Itv2SQH8QaacqoMe
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mark-levin-biden-bigoted-racist
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-top-news-race-and-ethnicity-politics-joe-biden-6cbd8c13529fee67c42e417175c425e5
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/10/opinion/how-many-insults-are-black-voters-supposed-take-joe-biden/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1344422/joe-biden-news-eulogy-kkk-recruiter-donald-trump-racism-us-election-spt
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/05/27/joe-biden-racist-pennsylvania-primary/
https://www.leftvoice.org/joe-biden-is-a-racist-who-loves-police-brutality
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-statement-on-bidens-offensive-racial-history/

Or is something else supposed to happen beyond reporting and editorializing? 

(10-09-2020, 12:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Those he insults who continue to support him do so because of one of two reasons:
1. Those supporters will be led to believe he is the better option as enablers will try to mitigate his comments by bringing up his opponent. This is known as a Red Herring (Charlottesville anyone?)

2. Those supporters realize Biden participates frequently in the soft bigotry of low expectations. But they also realize he will support platforms that will advantage them. (Much like the Evangelical do Trump)

I will say kudos to those that simply stated Biden's comments are not acceptable.

To make #1 stick, you really need to show why Biden is NOT the better option for "those he insults" than the guy who retweets from white supremacist sources. And in an election between two people, OF COURSE his "enablers will bring up his opponent." When comparing two candidates, it is not a "red herring" to note the other guy has sympathies with groups that mean you harm. Nor Whattaboutism.

Pretty sure "those he insults" are looking at where each candidate stands on current racial issues, and which will be more susceptible to influence/pressure from them--and which least.
 
2. We agree on. They don't think the other guy will "support platforms that will advantage them."  Evangelicals are a good analogy; Trump gave them greater access than any president before him.
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Why can't he stop insulting them - bfine32 - 10-07-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Why can't he stop insulting them - Dill - 10-09-2020, 03:50 PM

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