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(10-22-2020, 10:27 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: You are telling me to get real while also saying you don't even know of or have seen some of the people I have listed.  They are every bit as bad or worse than FOX.  They act hysterical.  Trump is going to destroy the Country, literally.  Hysterics.

I knew some of them, which was sufficient. Please forgive me for not knowing every American news anchor out there.

As for the hysteria aspect, I have a hard time condemning journalists for that, for I am in constant and utter bewilderment also. I don't need any anchor to bring me in this state, I just need Trump. The things Trump says or tweets or does leave me stunned. He lies about a pandemic, he calls Fauci an idiot, he mocks mask wearing, he calls the media the enemy of the people, he retweets a wild conspiracy that Bin Laden wasn't actually killed, he claims a dire deep state plot to commit voter fraud by the millions... and he does all that and this list is so long, and it leaves me equally stunned that anyone would not be alarmed and perplexed by this constant stream of absurdity alone. Never mind the authoritarian words and deeds and a bunch of other stuff, it's just the tip of an iceberg really. When I say "get real", I mainly mean acknowledge that this stuff is just objectively whacky, and so is this totally unrestricted praise of Trump despite all that happening on FOX.

But yeah, I will not defend all aspects of "MSM", for I find them all very dubious.

(10-22-2020, 10:27 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Cuomo the complete and utter mask hypocrite.  Did you catch the letter Cuomo's own building sent him about refusing to wear a mask and threatening him with a fine?  This is the same guy who thinks you are evil trash for not wearing a mask.

I'm sure "evil trash" is not quite an honest description. I support the message to wear masks, no matter which anchor's the messenger. As for this whole Cuomo saga, I heard there is something, but I really did not care about finding out more. For it really is not that important.

Because, even if Cuomo were a piece of trash and you could prove that, it wouldn't change the larger point. So let's say he is.

(10-22-2020, 10:27 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Straight facts like saying the Biden laptop was Russian disinformation?  Straight facts like Schiff, with zero knowledge or evidence stating on national TV that Hunter's laptop was Russian propaganda?

Yeah apparently the laptop was not deemed Russian propaganda. Heard that on the MSM.
As for Schiff, he is a politician, I would expect him to try a spin or to even to lie. In this case I'd rather see him giving a somewhat generalized and different answer to avoid the specific point, as all politicians do. But say he lied. In response Trump claimed he is sick and "ought to be put away" and investigated and "something should happen with him". I find that way more troubling.  

Especially since Trump lies all the time, about everything, matters large and small. It seems either hypocritical or a severe case of projection to want to put others away for lieing.

As for CNN? They did not report it originated from the Kremlin. They reported what you said.
Btw. where are the FOX reports on Trump's secret China bank account? Ah well.

(10-22-2020, 10:27 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: You mean completely rolled over for Biden and Harris?  Where is the coverage or questions of the laptop fiasco?  Any tough questions at all or of anything for Biden or Harris?  The MSM completely cover for them.  They cover them while they take almost zero questions and certainly no tough questions.  Harris went at least 42 days with not talking to the press.  Unprecedented.  Biden keeps hiding.

I don't know what you mean. I've seen Harris on TV recently, and I don't even watch that much TV. She was on the Maddow show. Also, she had a debate. Biden had a town hall. And I don't even investigate any further (for I don't care about Biden's or Harris' schedule), your point is already moot.

As for the laptop story, I reserve my judgment on that until I have a better idea of what to make out of that. This still is largely sourced on the untrustworthy duo of Giuliani and Bannon and even FOX and many at the Post had severe issues with its credibility, and the story itself is rather absurd. It might be a bunch of nothing or indeed manufactured or a last minute smear, and in that case they rightfully don't cover it prominently.

If it turns out to be substantial, then that's something else. As of now, I can't say.

(10-22-2020, 10:27 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: "Like no one on CNN ever did for anyone?"  Are you serious?  You have got to be trolling at this point.  They have been rolled over for Biden and Harris for months.

Just imagine Biden telling Anderson Cooper or whomever that we need to take out the families of terrorists or that he fell in love with Kim or that he is a perfect human specimen and very young (which Trump verbatim said) or that one of their moderators had blood come out of her whatever or, I mean, this could go on for thousands of pages, pick your poison. You think Mr. Anderson would just be all smiles and call him the greatest candidate ever?
There would be consternation. They wouldn't just pretend to not have noticed any absurdity. THAT is the difference I alluded to. (Amongst other things.)

That all those MSM really root for Biden to win, that I do not doubt. They have "rolled over". But imho that's mainly because Biden does not as Trump does.