3rd Presidential Debate

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(10-23-2020, 12:55 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I haven't seen that many sites with an analysis on the debate tonight (actually, only one), and it had Biden as the winner.  

The questions were obviously favored to help Biden, which was clear by Biden reading notes before the moderator even asked the first question, but Trump, for the most part, kept his cool and didn't interrupt Biden or the moderator.

I actually think Biden didn't do too badly.  

Back to a lot of it being scripted, though, Biden said something about Rudy Giulian, forgot where he was going with it, started to say "I better not......" again like he's been trained to do when he loses his train of thought, but then he remembered it and continued on with what he was saying.

One of Trump's strong points (that I had never even considered) is making the minimum decided by the states rather than having a national minimum wage, which is genius because some states are doing better economically and can afford to pay more than other states.  

I think that doing that could do A LOT for our country.  

Who do you think won?  What stood out to you?

I watched the first half of the debate before my son began wailing and we had to go put him to bed but the hour I saw was infinitely more tolerable than the previous debate. Questions were being answered and there were very few, if any, interruptions from either side.

I liked what Biden had to say for the most part. I think they stayed on the whole "who gets money from other countries more" a little bit too long. It's clear that both Trump and Biden abused legal structures to benefit from other countries and that's a bad look, I don't know what either hoped to gain from emphasizing the others' shady practices and trying to ignore their own. We're gonna have a president who has financial dealings in other countries. We just need to accept that.

The Giuliani thing was weird but I don't think it was a case of scripting or forgetting anything, he said "And your buddy -- No I better not, well yea I will..." before he mentioned Rudy. To me, I think his hang up with using condescending phrases like "your buddy" to refer to him rather than hesitating to mention Rudy in general. In the last debate, despite all of Trump's interrupting, Biden still caught a little bit of flack for telling him to shut up, so I think he said and then instantly regretted using "your buddy" because it was obviously said in an insulting manner.
Honestly, the way he was building up to that point I thought he was going to say something like "your buddy Vladimir Putin," as in someone who it would actually be very controversial to call Trump's buddy. Once he said Rudy, my ears perked back down.

As far as state minimum wages, those already exist. I didn't see that part, but if Trump was implying that state minimum wages don't exist, that's a lie. Like, for example, Ohio's minimum wage is $8.55 and the federal minimum wage is $7.25. 

I think some states do not have minimum wages or their minimum wage is less than the federal minimum wage, in which case the federal minimum wage is implemented. It's likely lower than nearly any state minimum wage because it's meant to ensure a bare minimum wage for all workers. If you eliminated the federal minimum wage, then states would need to be more vigilant with implementing and updating their minimum wages and then there would be situations where a state needs its minimum wage to be increased but the governor of the state is unwilling to do so for whatever reason, then you have a financial crisis. The federal minimum wage is just a low water mark. Something to ensure that no one is every truly exploited for their labor (not more so than they already are at such a meager minimum wage, but it's better to have an insufficient federal minimum wage than none at all).