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Carlos back to whining
(10-25-2020, 12:28 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Is it not the coaches who are supposed to put the players in a position to succeed? I will take the the side of all players over these garbage coaches after last weeks disaster. Time to move on from all the coaches but Simmons.

I struggle with the "Is the coach responsible to MOTIVATE" his players argument.  On one side, I see them as professionals that should be motivated as paid professionals to give 100% of their effort.  On the other side, I see teams that "take on the personality of their coach".  Every time I saw a Marvin Lewis team in the playoffs, it looked like they were scared, tentative, and overall uninterested.  And that was some of the biggest names on the team.  

As far as being in a position to succeed, how are guys like Bates and others playing extremely well?  How is it that a guy like Burrow with a horrible line and minimal weaponry excels?  The answer I would offer is the same one that Burrow provides:  preparation.  Who is studying extra game film?  Who came in with great conditioning and strength?  I give a bit of a pass to some of the newer pieces to figure out the defense, but I have always said that coaches don't block and tackle and it is very apparent when you isolate certain players that they are simply not giving a good effort and could seemingly care less about winning, as they are just drawing a paycheck.  
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Carlos back to whining - pally - 10-24-2020, 10:34 AM
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RE: Carlos back to whining - Tony - 10-25-2020, 12:36 AM
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RE: Carlos back to whining - SHRacerX - 10-24-2020, 11:34 AM
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