Pfizer vaccine..90 percent

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(11-11-2020, 06:23 PM)hollodero Wrote: There's no reason to think otherwise either.

The Swine Flu disaster that the Obama Administration messed up.

And this one is much more deadly.

Yes, there is reason to think otherwise.

(11-11-2020, 06:23 PM)hollodero Wrote: Well, there was some increased sense of urgency this time around, wouldn't you agree? And profit. And maybe, sure, an eased regulation that let's hope was actually unnecessary also helped speed things up significantly, but I would not know about that. If so, credit for not being completely ignorant about an unnecessary regulation in times of crisis. I'd give him that much.

Exactly.  

Urgency which Trump kicked into gear, and how can you say that you hope it was unnecessary?  How has it not proven to be necessary already?

Again, instead of addressing his accomplishments, you give him a backhanded compliment and refuse to acknowledge how good this looks like it's going to end up being.  

Bravo.

(11-11-2020, 06:23 PM)hollodero Wrote: On the risk of being all divisive again, I can not let this assertion stand unrefuted. 
I don't refuse to give him credit because of hate. I refuse to do so for I don't really see a clear-cut reason to praise him; but for sure more importantly, I refuse to do so because Trump overall was just awful regarding this pandemic. He mocked mask-wearing, he lied about the reality of things, he claimed it is vanishing, that the US turned a corner, he implied it's harmless, used his own son and himself as an example for that, he lied about vaccine timetables, he lied about mortality, he deliberately downplayed the threat - and this is an ongoing list - and with all this recklessness he endangered many people, very much including high-risk individuals like yourself. And this is a fair statement that has nothing to do with hate.

He didn't lie.  He was trying to keep people from panicking and also trying to figure out how to deal with this because it was unprecedented.

It was wrong for him to mock wearing masks at firsts, but, again, no one knew much about this.  He has wisened up and started wearing a mask.

Again, he downplayed it because no one knew much about it, and he was trying to keep the people calm.

(11-11-2020, 06:23 PM)hollodero Wrote: For see, you have an additional number of deniers now, of idiots that do not wear masks, do not social distance, behave irresponsibly, party and group up and spread the virus around, and make this situation all the more dangerous and dire. And for a large part, it's because they listen to Donald Trump. 
I have zero incentive to applaud him on how he handled Covid.

He has wisened up, and people who aren't following the orders are just morons.

What about the BLM gatherings and the protests?