Finley was awful at QB and so was Allen...

[CJD]

(11-30-2020, 10:56 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Not defending the coaching staff, but Allen simply held on to the ball for way too long and missed open guys by the boatload, not to mention he didn't use his checkdowns at all (like Brady yesterday; the amount of times Fournette was open underneath was insane). Gio-van did have the big drop, but he was consistently getting open in speace, for what would've been (conceivably) 5-6 yard gains, on 1st and 2nd down; I counted 5 instances and there were probably more.

I don't know if Allen was skittish or if he just didn't have any confidence, but something wasn't clicking between the ears and if Burrow was in the same situation, the ball would've been out so much earlier, so much more often.

Yea, that was odd that he never took the check down. I am not a play caller, so I can't say definitively how these things are worked out, but I would assume that the play caller determines the read order. So if ZT called a play where the primary read was, say, Tee Higgins, and then the second read was the tight end and then the third read was the check down and Allen kept getting caught on the first or second read and never got to the third read, then that's obviously a QB issue.

But if he KEEPS doing it I, as the play caller, would presumably begin to change the play call or alter the play call to make the check down the 2nd read. I would hope our play caller would do the same. 

There's no way that the coaches didn't point out to Allen on the sidelines "you see this play where you got sacked after holding the ball for 3.5 seconds. If you just checked it down, Gio would have gotten 8 yards. And that's a bit better than an 8 yard sack, don't you think?"

If he continued making the same mistake, eventually you have to wonder what the coaches are even saying to him.

Of course, maybe Allen is just uncoachable. Who's to say?
Maybe Finley is also uncoachable and our coaches are just really really really unlucky with how uncoachable the back up QBs are (disregarding the fact that they brought these guys in, but we'll look past that point for the moment).

I tend to think when problems persist between player switches, it is likely the system rather than the individual players. A systemic issue, so to speak. But that is a viewpoint that not everyone necessarily has.