12-04-2020, 07:27 PM
(12-04-2020, 05:07 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: To each their own, but Uzomah is a TE who averaged 250 yards through years 2 -5 (doesn't include rookie year and this year). He's also coming off an achilies tear, which is rather significant injury. Is he really someone who you want to pay 6.3 million dollars to in the last year of his contract.
If we draft Sewell where do you move Jonah? RT would obviously make the most sense. If Jonah moves to RT then where do you put Bobby Hart? Do you really want to pay Bobby Hart 6.9 million in his last year of his contract too?
I just think these dollars could be allocated a lot better. Between these two cuts, you could sign a top tier G.
Fwiw, I actually like Uzomah, I just think he's greatly overpaid. I'd have no problem with him being here at around 3 mil or so. But 6.3 is way too much for that production history and coming off the injury.
Butting my head into a convo and haven't read most of this thread, which I know is risky, but this was a good point to mention some things I wanted to mention.
I know you know a great deal about the NFL, but you often really underestimate the market value of many of our players. So you're saying Bobby Hart would be overpaid at 6.9M if he moved into RG? You know what other NFL interior lineman make?
Zach Fulton of the Texans makes 7M AAV. You're really so dead sure that Hart would be a lesser guard than Zach Fulton?
Our own Trey Hopkins makes about 6.8. Are they that drastically different? (Imagining Hart as a RG, not RT).
James Carpenter of Atl makes about 5.25. That's less than Hart but I'd venture to say Hart as a guard, given that his run blocking is better than his pass blocking, would be a better guard than James Carpenter.
You also sometimes underestimate what dead cap does to a roster. I know Hart's dead cap would only be 1 million, but that means unless you can find a guard obviously better than Hart for 5.9M it doesn't make sense to cut him (in the scenario w/ Sewell you mention; tackles are a different market). And looking at the examples above, I don't know that you can. I know you're adding that to the money saved by cutting Uzomah, but you can't play that game because then we need another TE. We need a lot of things in fact. So when it comes to finding the WR or D-lineman we need, you can't turn around and say use the money saved by cutting Uzomah. You've already used it.
And then let's look at Uzomah. Leon Hall came back from two achilles tears, so i'm not worried about that. Remember when we re-upped Uzomah, the Bills came in and paid Tyler Kroft - that's right, Tyler frickin' Kroft - roughly the same money. His 2020 cap hit with the Bills is just a hair over 5.44M. Even if you cut Uzomah, leaving another 1M on the cap, and signed Kroft at what the (very successful, by the way) Bills are paying him, you'd then be paying a total of 6.44M (5.44 for Kroft plus the 1M you still owe Uzomah) for Tyler Kroft! You really like that deal? And if your idea is that you'll go out and find a TE clearly better than Uzomah for less than 5M (because remember you're paying him 1M regardless), good luck. At best you'd just end up with an empty shell game.
I also understand that you mean to throw that 5M back in the pot and use it wherever, not necessarily on a TE, but even that being the case you still need to go through thought experiments like this. I'm sure you don't want Tyler Kroft, but my point is that's what the market will bear if you're out there trying to spend 5M or so on a TE.
And now let's look at what sort of NFL TE you get for the 3 million bucks you want to pay Uzomah. Per spotrac.com, it's somebody like Josh Hill, who has all of 45 yards on 7 receptions this year, or Lee Smith, who has, I kid you not, 4 whole yards on 2 receptions. And actually 4M because you're already paying Uzomah 1m. You're not getting C.J. Uzomah for 3M my friend.
Maybe you want to cut a bunch of players to wad the money together to pay a top flight CB or something, but remember you still then have to pay somebody to give you production at the TE and OL spots you just cut, and draft picks can't do it all, and you just handicapped yourself with 2M of dead cap (Hart and Uzomah 1M each).
This is why we don't cut as many players each year as fans want us to. Don't underestimate how hard it is to replace that production.
Sorry this post is so long but yours are always long as hell too! :)
