We can't even get a Penei.

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(12-28-2020, 07:25 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't know that I can answer that fairly, as the expectations would have been completely different had he been taken in the 1st round.

Fair play for admitting that, but I think when considering second contracts we need to consider their play as against their peers rather than against their draft position. I think WJIII is still an above average starter in this league but has suffered from being a 1st round pick.

(If we were picking 24th the year we drafted Lawson I'd have been ok with us taking Lawson in the 1st - I was really high on him - but had we done so I think he'd have been viewed as a bust).

Either way I consider WJIII and Lawson to be the second and third best starters on this D and for that reason I'd be keen to retain. God knows watching Leshaun Sims play reinforces how much we miss WJIII.