02-16-2021, 06:28 PM
(02-15-2021, 03:13 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: LOL
Please, by all means, point out where I have "so much anger" in this thread. You've already been accused of trying to put words into another posters mouth in this thread. I said "#1 overall QBs don't do well on teams that earned the #1 pick". I didn't say anything about success.
As far as your choices of #1 QBs, Cam Newton has never been a passing threat. He has had one season with more than 24 passing TDs. He has a career passer rating of 85.8 . . . Andy Dalton has a career passer rating of 87.5 and nobody considers him a passing threat.
As late as December, no one in the Browns organization would publicly commit to Baker Mayfield's fifth year option. Good rookie season, poor 2nd year and an up and down third year that he finished well.
Carson Palmer has a career 46-51 record as a Bengal. He has two winning seasons in Cincinnati and his second one came on a team committed to the run. He was never the same after his knee injury and wound up walking away from the team that drafted him #1.
Andrew Luck is the poster child as to why a team that earned the #1 overall pick should trade out of that spot instead of ruining the kids career by being sacked out of the league. Phenomenal QB that only played 86 games. That's less than 5 and a half seasons in 7 years. By that measure, start looking for Burrow's replacement in early 2025 because he'll be out of the league after the 2026 season. Luck retired because he was tired of spending the entirety of every off-season trying to recuperate for the coming season. After missing all of 2017, he was only sacked 18 times his final season and still wasn't ready for the 2019 season when it began. Burrow was sacked 19 times from weeks 2 through 5 alone (3, 8, 1, 7) and was injured in a game that he wasn't sacked.
You might call Luck a success, I'd say that it didn't work out well for him.
Hurling three insults at one poster in one individual post does not exactly scream happy ball of sunshine.
He never even elaborated once I asked him about success, so obviously he didn’t have anything else worth saying.
Your measure of success or “doing well” is very subjective. You named four QBs who have had very different paths, most would say were successful, and used your own different critiques for saying they were not. I mean, if you used Super Bowl wins as your criteria, sure you would be right, but you didn’t. Your reasons for not being able to say they were successful are a classic case of “moving the goalposts.”
