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Biden Admin/117th Congress Gun Control
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(02-22-2021, 03:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I see that the pro-gun side are using the classic spin of just addressing "deaths" instead of looking at the real problem.  Three times as many people are shot each year as die from gunshot wounds.  Then there are hundreds of thousands of crimes committed with guns when they are never discharged.  Gun "deaths" are only a small fraction of gun "violence".

They accuse gun regulation advocates of being disingenuous for including suicides in gun death totals, but their spin on the facts is actually much more extreme.

(02-22-2021, 03:27 PM)Au165 Wrote: Did they explain why the root causes don't impact other similarly industrialized countries as they do us? I scanned it but didn't see that addressed. All the things they were calling out are present in other countries that don't see anything remotely similar to our issues with gun violence. 

I am serious, I scanned it quickly and have never really seen a good explanation when these things are brought up other than "it's complicated".

I'm going to address both of these with the same post because what I will lay out here applies to both in a similar way. There are some unique factors in the US that make us different than other countries, and one of those things is something on that page that they talk about a little in a more broad connection to gun violence. Socioeconomic inequality and a lack of socioeconomic mobility correlate stronger to gun violence than anything else. Gun violence includes crimes committed with firearms that are never even discharged, and it is something that separates us from other WEIRD nations because our Gini coefficient is closer to a developing nation than those nations that we think of as our peers.

So, not only is gun control used to hold down marginalized communities, focusing on gun control rather than the socioeconomic inequality that drives gun violence keeps those marginalized communities in their place to keep being held down.
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RE: Biden Admin/117th Congress Gun Control - Belsnickel - 02-22-2021, 04:15 PM

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