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Politics and Religion
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(03-02-2021, 11:57 AM)hollodero Wrote: For one, since the topic is as such, I have to express my bewilderment about your politicians talking about faith and God and prayers so awfully much. Left and Right, everyone prays for every issue and every person and every enemy every minute of every day. This is just gross. But maybe I'm just used to more rationally arguing leaders.

But for sure, many Americans seem to be quite religious people, and many American politicians are incredibly willing to be void of any principle and to appear as whatever is convenient. So probably, no surprise.

I'm also bewildered that 80% or so of republican voters still seem to be in awe of Trump. What also struck me is one of the most popular explanations on how people can overlook all the lies, hyperboly and stupidity in Trump's words. They take him seriously, but not literally, so I'm told. And I suppose quite literally the only other entity that gets this kind of benefit is the Bible. One does not stone thy neighbor if he, whatever, works on a Sunday. One does none of the outrageous things the Bible suggests one should do. But it's still the most sacred book ever written, and holds the one and only truth. Seriously, not literally.

There are many other examples, but this one should do to illustrate my point. To me, the US political struggle less and less looks like a battle of ideas or policies or ideology. It is a religious quarrel. People siding with Trump (not all conservatives, far from it) treat their affiliation as a religious commitment. One that does not need truth or facts or observable variables. Just faith.

And so, I more and more regard Trump not as a political leader, but a religious leader. Not for churches or of Christianity. But for the MAGA church and of Trumpianity. A sect.

It seems to explain a lot.
Your takedown, please.

I have never seen the point between God and religion and I'm still waiting for someone to explain me this.

The God of the books is an idiot. He created something he doesn't like. His own suffering. 

If you write a poem, you can curse, burn, hate the 3rd or 5th line but at the end of the day, you're the one who made it ...

I also don't understand why the notion of God is tied to life after death. 

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

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Politics and Religion - hollodero - 03-02-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: Politics and Religion - GMDino - 03-02-2021, 12:08 PM
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RE: Politics and Religion - hollodero - 03-02-2021, 01:52 PM
RE: Politics and Religion - Dill - 03-02-2021, 06:48 PM
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RE: Politics and Religion - Wes Mantooth - 03-02-2021, 12:29 PM
RE: Politics and Religion - hollodero - 03-02-2021, 01:16 PM
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RE: Politics and Religion - hollodero - 03-02-2021, 02:06 PM
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