Politics and Religion

[hollodero]

(03-03-2021, 01:37 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Not completely absurd if you're making comparisons to far right totalitarianism, no.  When comparing them to the Nazis, yes.  As I have stated repeatedly, I loathe comparisons to Hitler or the Nazis because they are so intentionally inflammatory and 99.9% of the times utterly flawed.  Some "progressive" people here seem not to mind them, which IMO says a lot about them, but to me the comparison better be iron clad to even be voiced.

There's no real disagreement.

(03-03-2021, 01:37 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No, they absolutely got bullied out of here.  I've been posting in this sub-forum longer than anyone but Bel.  Of course there were others who posted here before me, but they have fallen off posting here, and by here I mean the board as a whole.  I witnessed the bullying and I saw the expressed intent behind it.  I have a job that has basically inured me to this type of abuse.  Especially as the people here are rank amateurs in this regard compared to what I've had to deal with in real life.  But most people don't have that ability, especially in regards to something that should provide at least a modicum of enjoyment.

The fact that I could even be considered "conservative" shows you the dearth of actual conservatives here.  Sunset limits his posting, correctly IMO, due to being a mod.  Fritz, forgive me, is not a great example for reasons I won't get in to.  Mickey, sure, but he doesn't post often.  Even allowing for all three, you're talking about less than 5% of the regular posters here.  Face it, this place was made a hostile environment for right leaning people.  One need look no further than our discussions on Hitler and Nazi comparisons to see an example.

It's far from me to defend bullying of any kind, and I kinda get what you mean. Meaning, I can think of examples that fit your portrayal, and I can not refute the notion that I might have blind spots as well. I sure do.
It's just.... it's not so much just the left to me. Still. The US climate is hostile to begin with. If there are more liberals, it's more hostile towards conservatives. But as I mentioned. I was called being mentally deranged, of having no independent thought, of parroting lies I am told on CNN, of slavishly watching MSM and being incapable to escape propaganda for my mind is too weak and I am too dumb a person to see the truth. This also is pretty unpleasant, and even more unpleasant when there are more right-leaning folks that call all liberals sick bastards. Which is frequent on the internet, a place where most people tend to be tough guys to begin with. If you just look at the left, imho you're also displaying quite the blind spot about what's going on.

I once (at least once) banished someone conservative from these boards. My eternal sin was correcting some apparent falsehoods about the climate accord. The response was "I'm outta here, I got enough of that crap", and off this user went. I'm sorry, but I do not feel sorry about this kind of "bullying", and I'm also not the least bit sorry for "bullying" bfine. I do acknowledge that there's some way more severe kind of diminishing others going on, it's not like I am unaware of that. I refute it's that one-sided though.

When it comes to conservative users, I think 5% is too low a number. There's masonbengalsfan, Harley steps by, so does Philhos, Wes might be more conservative than liberal, as might michaelsean be, every two months or so JustWinBaby makes his rounds of offending everyone. LeonardLeap is not a liberal, and neither is Nately. The one conservative missing lately is bfine, but imho he can't really complain (though he sure tried) for being called out on certain things. Yeah, there are more liberals for sure. But most of them are not here to bully anyone.

And you... I mean, I don't really know what to make out of your political affiliations. You're a liberal turned off by liberals, with some takes I would deem more conservative. Eg. your take on liberal policies leading to failing socialism, your stance on gun laws, or on crime and law enforcement come to mind. Overall, I don't deem it that far off to see you as somewhat conservative leaning. Even though I would not say so myself.