Politics and Religion

[hollodero]

(03-04-2021, 04:26 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  I asked for examples of posters who left here because they felt bullied.

I have never denied that people try to bully others here.  SSF regularly calls me a liar and makes personal attacks against me and Dil (and yes I can post specific examples if you want).  I was also repeatedly told I suffered from a mental illness (TRS) when I criticized the Donald.

But I don't know of anyone here from either side who left because they felt bullied.  Anyone who goes to an internet message board for political discussion understands how they work.

TDS, yeah I was told that as well. I usually had quite a lot to say about that. SSF was not amongst those who did say that to me though, and I guess this term was never part of his repertoire, so I wonder why you would throw it in there.

I agree on the nature of message boards and on fretfulness often playing a large part in people feeling "bullied" for recieving contradiction. The way said contradiction is phrased, however, still often is less than ideal as well.

(03-04-2021, 05:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What is your position on SSF repeatedly calling me a liar and saying I have no integrity?  Why don't you consider that "bullying"?

My position, to a large part, is that you reap what you sow.
My additional position is that I deem all that unnecessary, calling people's integrity in question for example. 

I don't know why or under what circumstances he called you a liar.

And I do not consider it bullying in the sense of ousting someone from these boards, because for one he is a single person and he won't succeed in bullying you out anyway. The whole aspect debated was not "regular power poster vs. regular power poster". You have your year-long quarrels and they are not lead nicely, but to me that's not really the issue at hand. You all could use less aggressive terms, that includes SSF as much as it includes you.

(03-04-2021, 05:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What about when he mischaracterizes peoples statements and then refuses to ever post examples when called out for it?

I don't really know about that. He doesn't do that with me, and I feel we do not agree on that awfully much to begin with, issue-wise. One might wonder why I apparently get treated so differently than apparently you get treated. Imho, it is because I do not use dismissive terms to begin with. By that, I do not pass blame to you or him, on the grounds that I don't really know about that.

(03-04-2021, 05:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How can you say the bullying is due to a liberal majority?  The act of bullying has nothing to do with the number of people doing it.  It is either bully behavior or it isn't.

Well, the issue I was jumping at was "mob mentality", eg. a bunch of users telling a few users off. If you choose a definition of bullying where one single person can do it - which is reasonable - I might have been coming from a different angle.