03-04-2021, 07:46 PM
(03-04-2021, 07:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: And now you're starting to see why Fred is routinely accused of dishonesty. Arguing that you said something you did not, which is a Fred staple, and then asking you to apologize for it is dishonest. It is not, however, lying.
As Fred seems to be confused about the difference I thought I'd help.
li·ar
/ˈlī(ə)r/
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noun
- a person who tells lies.
dis·hon·est
/disˈänəst/
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adjective
- behaving or prone to behave in an untrustworthy or fraudulent way.
"he was a dishonest hypocrite prepared to exploit his family"
The difference looks rather definitive (pun intended).
Both definitions are the same.
They both based on a lack of truthfulness.
So what exactly is the difference?
