Politics and Religion

[Dill]

(03-05-2021, 10:59 AM)hollodero Wrote: Points of clarification. :)

What I will say though, in the end, I feel there's a general tendency of not taking issue with one of your own. Eg. the way you perceive Dino vs SSF, to me, seems in some part rooted in the fact that you usually agree with Dino on the issues. Which can lead to a tendency to blame the person you don't agree with more, or even exclusively. And there I have another perspective, not because I force myself into neutrality, but because I'm not an American and imho not so deeply captured by a certain "us vs. them" mentality that is pretty prevalent in the US and its people. I might see that incorrectly for sure, but it's what I believe to observe quite some time.
I will add that this sure goes both ways. Non-liberals usually don't take issue with other non-liberals either, including when there's talk about stolen elections or FBI treason or how Michelle Obama was a *****. I do see SSF's point that it's only you liberals as very shaky, and this also is something I did express. He doesn't take issue with me saying so. Why such things are different when you say that, well I don't quite know. It's not because I'm inherently better, that's for sure. It's probably because I'm an exotic bird.

Not going to let this personal attack slide!!! 

lol  No wait. I actually am.  Tamed by your fluency and good sense.

And yes, this is me: "your style is to explain things, and if someone has a different take, you feel the need to further explain yourself, to add more points, as in "if you don't agree with me, I need to make myself clearer".  But I add that when doing this I am also listening to others and searching for critique, what went wrong in my communication--which means I can be wrong, refuted, etc. It just has to be by argument and evidence. E.g., the thread I started on the RWM and the Big Lie--that was a "test model" and big ask for productive critique. Not a demand for assent. I did take care to remind people they did not need to respond to my responses (for fear of wearying them or seeming overbearing).

I was going to send you a private message apologizing for posting a too-long "clarification" to the last person in this forum who needed it, and the last person I wanted to get all worried about stepping on verbal mines planted during some previous war.

But I'll do it now, in public. Sorry Hollo!

PS Going to attack Dino first chance I get. Whatever it is, he won't get away with it this time.