03-06-2021, 08:00 PM
(03-06-2021, 06:16 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Also, here is a not lazy view for those of you that can't take the time to look past flashy numbers in college.
Look at the top QBs in the NFL and you'll notice an amazing trend.
Rodgers - Cal
Brady - Michigan
Mahomes - Texas Tech
Josh Allen - Wyoming
Russell Wilson - Wisconsin
Lamar Jackson - Louisville
Then some of the top guys that are aging like
Matt Ryan - Boston College
Piggy - Miami of Ohio
Brees - Purdue
Rivers - NC State
Outside of Deshaun Watson (who hasn't won anything of substance but has the stats) all the big time talents at QB, are from non-powerhouse schools. Sure, people may argue Michigan, but really when was the last time Michigan won anything? Brady did manage to win the Orange bowl his senior year, but still wasn't a loaded team nor were they a National Championship team. They actually finished 5th in rankings that year and only had 6 players drafted.. not a loaded team at all.
Guys who succeed the most in the NFL, are used to fighting against tough competition with less around them. That mental toughness, that ability to create and make guys around you better than they actually are, that is what makes a guy a great NFL QB. A guy going off when he is surrounded by talent isn't real life in the NFL.
The school of choice has very little indication of whether or not a QB is going to be successful in the NFL. What matters is the coaching they have. A point like this has more validity to it when coaching staffs have more or less remained consistent for years, which isn’t common. For instance Sarkisian coached Tua and Mac. That’s it. The jury is out on Tua, he could bust. The jury is out on Mac, he hasn’t taken a snap yet. The lazy part of the take is saying “Well, Alabama hasn’t had a successful QB recently, so Mac won’t be any good”. It doesn’t do anything to look at the player himself.
A decent argument is the amount of talent they are surrounded by and how that influences their play, which is a point you bring up. That’s a reason I didn’t like Haskins. The talent he had around him and the offense he was quarterbacking didn’t make me optimistic about his future. That argument could be made for Mac, I haven’t watched much tape on him.
Point being, schools are a lazy way to dismiss (or hype) a player. You’re right, until you aren’t. That’s why evaluations need to happen.
