03-07-2021, 12:10 PM
(03-07-2021, 03:43 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: The amount of talent around them was why I mentioned the schools. A guy playing for Purdue has less talent around him then a guy playing for Ohio State. And then has to play against those loaded teams in his Conference. The guy who competes with the lesser amount of talent and can elevate the play of those guys has the "it" factor that is needed in the NFL. So many QBs have talent coming out of college but to succeed in the NFL is more then physical tools, there has to be that other level of mentality to succeed.
And that is a fair argument, but some of those guys listed don't fit the bill. The obvious one is Brady. Michigan was a really good program. They won a National Title in 1997 (co-championship, so you can argue that if you want but they went 12-0, winning the Rose Bowl). They finished in the Top 25 every single season in the 90s, including five Top-10 finishes. Also, Brady went in the 6th round for a reason. He is an anomaly and shouldn't be used as an example for much of anything. Going from a guy who was fighting to make a roster spot to the unchallenged GOAT of football is an outlier.
Wisconsin is also a really good program. They currently have a streak of 19 straight seasons making a bowl game. Of those 19 seasons, 10 of those seasons ended with double digit wins. There are four Top 10 finishes in there, including the season that Wilson was there. Honestly, that Wisconsin roster was stacked, too. They had Russ at QB, their RB group was Melvin Gordon, James White, Montee Ball. The offensive line was Travis Frederick, Kevin Zeitler, Rob Havenstein, Peter Konz. They had Nick Toon and Abbrederis at WR. On that roster, there were six guys who would get drafted in the first two rounds of the NFL draft, and a total of 14 guys who played in the NFL.
Patrick Mahomes is a great example, possibly the best, of the point I am making. Tech has been seen as system school for years now. The idea was that you should never draft a Tech QB, because they won't be successful. It doesn't matter how many yards they throw for, it doesn't mean anything. Then, Mahomes breaks that trend. Now, this doesn't mean that there should be a run on Tech QBs, nor does any of this mean you should look at Purdue QBs, or Cal QBs. It means that the school does not matter. What does matter, is the coaching, to a certain extent. Scouting the players ability is what will tell you the tale, and dismissing a player because of their school never producing successful QBs is lazy.
Oklahoma had never produced a successful QB, until they did (Mayfield and Murray. I think Bradford would have been great if he could stay healthy).
LSU had never produced a successful QB, and still haven't. (Jury is still out on Burrow, but he looked great. Fingers crossed here.)
USC had never produced a successful QB until our boy Palmer was drafted. He is still the best USC QB, NFL-wise.
Tennessee had never produced a successful QB until Manning.
Auburn had never produced a successful QB, until Newton.
Clemson had never produced a successful QB, until Watson.
All of this to say, you still bring up a point of consideration when it comes to talent on the teams. It is why some people are high on Zach, but for every Zach Wilson/Drew Brees, there are hundreds on no-name-Nelsons.
