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What makes a backup QB trade happen
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(03-04-2017, 08:48 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Good stuff, probably right about the Rams, they might like what they have with Goff.

Man it sure would be pretty dumb of the Skins to let Cousins get away, don't understand what they are thinking there.

Don't know why i didn't think of the Bears, they are definately in play. Atleast AJM shown that he can win the turnover
battle with his time here. He didn't make bad mistakes besides the Steeler game where he got thrust into action.

I have heard some say that Bridgewater's career may be over. Bradford sure didn't impress me last year from the
games i watched. Dude is one weird looking QB too lmao, he just makes me laugh looking at him, mean Nate.       Mellow

I know pretty much nothing about Driskell but i do know we need a QB with a quicker release than McCarron.

Like i said, AJM could be very good behind a good O-line. Just not here if Dalton goes down cause of poor OL play.

Yeah I'll start where you finished regarding the importance of the line, man is that such a big deal.  You're right, we saw it firsthand that AJM looked pretty solid when the line looked good.  He was thrown in there down the stretch and was up against a really good Denver and Pitt team and should have beat both (funny..not haha funny that Burfict's PFs killed both games).  I hear this debate on the board of having him so the season isn't lost if Dalton goes down, well the season WAS lost when Dalton was healthy.  

IF AJM yields fair value now you do it for two reasons:

1. The return (2nd/3rd and 5th/etc...) should give you not only an asset but an actual body to help protect Dalton.  Even if they don't directly use that pick directly for an OL, having the extra pick could allow them to take BPA early and then sway toward a OL if things are close after that.  A lot of mocks tackle the issue of needing a DL high and take an OL because most of us don't trust the team to have a competent OL going into the draft.  The Fournette rumor is a good example of needing to cash in on AJM.  Say they see him (or another player like as a top 3 player in the draft) sitting at 9 but feel they have to fill a starter spot by reaching for Ramczyk/Robinson.  That or they see DL as a deep position, would be content with Barnett/Charlton but feel tempted to get the bigger need out of the way.  So gaining the extra pick allows you to take your Fournette/Hooker/Cook, and open things up to still be able to land the other two needs by say the next 3 or 4 picks.  If they go heavy on defense and skill positions early based on BPA, you could still trade out of your quantity (say use a comp 4 to move up out of your early 3rd) to gain a top OL that has fallen as teams load up elsewhere.  The extra pick only helps in whatever way to add a descent body that even Paul Alexander will have issues burying.  

2.  The QB schedule.  We of coarse know that AJM isn't a long term option, even Dalton haters (should should have been converted after what Dalton did while he ran for his life this year) can see this.  Mike Glennon could get above 10M as a FA, AJ will get that next year if he doesn't play a snap.  It's now time to either groom another young backup or deal with a cheap vet to spot game manage (think Gradkowski or aging Kitna in the past) and cash in AJM.  Yea Driskell is a mystery. I just remember us worrying about who the last cut would be and instead they add a 3rd QB and keep him ALL year.  It says a lot about what THEY see in him when some of us were expecting them to cut him for a few weeks and sign him back in case of an injury elsewhere.  So just as they look like they're letting a AJM trade come to them, they're acting like they're ready to let Driskell fight for the backup job much like AJM as a rookie (though he was hurt).  Like AJM's situation, they had Jason Campbell as cheap insurance.  For Campbell, it was system knowledge over talent.  To get something similar it could be Gradkowski again because of his work with Zampese.  It's just what they do, I want something better than Driskell/Grad, but the QB class doesn't show depth to warrant another AJM type sliding to where they'd take one (4th or 5th?).  The two times a vet could come to them and lower their cost is just prior to the draft to secure a job that may not be there after, or just prior to training camp.  


-Per Bradford's roto, Spielman and Zimmer speak highly of him.  He did have a 72 comp %, 20-5 TD-INT and may have hit 4,000yds if he was there a week earlier.  The guy used to be fragile and is kinda weird but he will be their guy no matter if Bridgewater is done.  They just have to hope that Teddy recovers to at least be a pawn in Bradford negotiations.  


-Speaking of negotiations, Cousins is an example of what the tag can become.  Washington would be crazy to trade him, but they literally can't keep tagging him.  Similar to our MJ situation but a larger scale, it can be hard to negotiate when that's an option.  When negotiations get this nasty, especially when tagging him again after this season would cost 34M, they may consider his trade value.  With Shanahan's connection, San Fran's desperation, cap space and for all we know not being sold on a QB at #2...they may throw a modern day Herscel Walker deal at Washington for a guy they can't lock down. 
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