Vontaze Burfict!

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(05-24-2017, 03:51 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Your numbers are a little off. 

From 1989-2002 we were 72-152  (.321) in regular season and 1-1 in the playoffs.
Marvin is 118-103-3 (.533) in regular season and 0-7 in the playoffs.

To your overall point though, I just have to wonder when people will stop pointing to the 90's in order to justify Marv's mediocre-at-best results. In 2022 will we still be looking back 30 years in terror? Maybe we should forget about what happened back when there was AOL dial up and pagers and start judging Marv by his own merits. Marv's win % is barely enough to justify his continued employment, and no team not headed by Mike Brown would keep Marvin after all the playoff/prime-time failure. The regular season success hasn't been frequent or strong enough to offset the record-setting failures on the big stage.

I look at Marv's past and I'm just not as hopeful as you. Maybe for the regular season, but I'd almost bet my house that he won't win the playoff game if they get there.

Fwiw, the Reds last won a playoff series in 1995, not 1990. That said, I'm just as frustrated by their failures, even though I realize that baseball has no salary cap and less parity. 

How could I forget the Ron Gant-led 1995 Reds?  I was even at the Nomo playoff game!!!

As far as looking back at the past as a measuring stick, that isn't really what I was trying to accomplish.  I was pointing out that Marv took over a steaming turd and made something viable out of it.  

The past few seasons I had significant reservations because of a variety of things:  Hadn't addressed the pass rush, no vertical threat, didn't think much of our running game, etc.  I just see so many positives, and I like that no one is expecting anything out of this team (media wise). 

As far as Marv goes, I see his biggest weaknesses as a coach as time management and an unwillingness to keep the throttle down with even a slight lead early in a game.  Too conservative.  With no new deal for him as of right now, I think this is Marv's last shot and I just really want to see him finish the job rather than his legacy be 0-8 in the playoffs.