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Contract status of our o-line
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(02-21-2018, 01:12 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Actually, recent history says that tackles picked in the top 1/3(ish) isn't as hopeful as you'd think it is. It's still a safer bet than most picks, but it's still pretty spotty.


In the past 10 years, there have been five tackles chosen either first or second overall. Above-average starting tackles today among those five: zero. Jake Long (2008) is a backup in Atlanta now after two major knee surgeries. Jason Smith (2009) failed with the Rams, in part because of a severe concussion, and is out of football. Eric Fisher (2013) is improving, but was Pro Football Focus’ 39th-rated tackle last year; Luke Joeckel (2013) continued to struggle in Jacksonville and was rated 52nd. Greg Robinson of the Rams (2014) was 73rd of PFF’s 76 rated tackles last fall.



Of the 17 tackles picked in the top 10 since 2005, only three were ever first-team all-pro. Obviously only one left tackle per year can be named first-team all-pro, but only four of the 17 ranked in PFF’s top 20 of tackles for the 2015 season play isn't a slam dunk.


No position is a "slam dunk".  (See our last two early wide receiver picks Ross (1st round) & Boyd (2nd round) & Yes, they could still pan out.)

Last Draft and off the top of my head, we saw 1st rounder Ryan Ramczyk starting at right tackle for the Saints in the playoffs, 2nd rounder Cam Robinson starting at Left tackle for the Jags in the playoffs and 3rd round Center Pat Eiflen starting for the Vikings in the playoffs.

The point isn't whether we Draft first team All pros but rather that we view our weakest areas on the team with an eye on bringing in potential starter Upgrades as the opportunity to do so presents itself in drafts. (Would be nice if we did so in Free Agency also but not likely)

We need to be able to recognize the potential UPGRADE DIFFERENTIAL between what we have starting for us now and an available player in a Draft, (as Tom Coughlin did with Cam Robinson in Jacksonville) and then INVEST our pick in an attempt at an upgrade of that starting weak link.

Be aggressive in taking swings at weak link starter upgrades and make the starting team on the field better. Then go back to drafting a starter replacement two years ahead of time or getting a 5th corner in place or drafting a Toy fastest combine speed ever guy etc.

The Bengals are good at keeping a starting running back IN PLACE while turning over the last one by making sure they get a THOROUGHBRED to replace him but do not do the same with many other positions.

They would never FLOUNDER around with a serviceable or worse running back for very long but are willing to FLOUNDER around with other starters from season to season at times.

In short, INVEST in upgrading the 4 or 5 weak link starters with early round stabs at worthy candidates that can likely UPGRADE and we will begin to run out of weak links.

Then they can go back to whatever it is they have been doing all of these years until more starting weak links present themselves.
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Contract status of our o-line - fredtoast - 02-20-2018, 01:30 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - RASCAL - 02-20-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - depthchart - 02-21-2018, 01:46 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - jj22 - 02-21-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - Steve - 02-21-2018, 09:38 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - jj22 - 02-21-2018, 12:32 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - snowy - 02-20-2018, 06:09 PM
RE: Contract status of our o-line - SYLVIA - 02-23-2018, 02:35 PM

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