04-08-2018, 03:10 AM
(04-08-2018, 02:12 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: Your showing 8 throws to Bengals players who are not AJ Green, this means he caught 11, which is 58%. Also, for that year, how many TD's were to Green and how many were to the other players? That's a small sample size, and his career stats would be a better measurement.
What would prove how much Green helps Dalton on the deep balls is what Daltons ratings are when he targets AJ Green, and what his ratings are when he targets other Bengals players.
If for example, Dalton has a 120 QB rating on deep throws targeting AJ for his career, then we know AJ has a hugely positive influence on Daltons deep ball ratings. This would indicate that for Bengals players not named AJ Green, his ratings would plummet on deep throws.
One thing these stats don't show is how many bad balls were caught and how many good balls were dropped. It also doesn't show how many times receivers were open and Dalton decided to check it down to a bengals players instead. If a QB only throws a deep ball under optimum conditions, and takes fewer shots down the field, then his numbers will be higher simply because he picks his spots better than someone who throws the ball down the field a lot.
It was 9 completion of 30+ yards to other receivers. Dalton completed a pair of 44 yarders to LaFell and I mistakenly only listed one.
Some of these stats you ask for have not been recorded by anyone ever. Too specific. But the stats that have been posted should suffice or at least give you a good idea that Dalton does not suck on deep throws. I'm sorry, but if he sucked, he would not produce repetitively. Ben has undeniably had better deep threats and posts objectively worse production.
Crappy players can produce for short stretches, but I'm of the belief that things always even out eventually. Dalton has been at this for 7 years, posting good deep ball stats. Eventually people such as yourself should just look at the production and maybe admit you were wrong.
I won't hold my breath though.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
