Scribe Mock- Hobson's picks

[Shake n Blake]

(04-24-2018, 08:24 AM)Au165 Wrote: A non contact play. You are trying hard to make your example work, but it won't. As all articles around the time said it was a freak accident that could have happened to anyone, keyword there anyone. Sam Bradford's injury was non contact too, but I don't see anyone trying to attribute that to anything other than a freak accident.

The Dalton point was about Jackson being small or not thick enough. We have ran Andy a decent amount in his career and he actually ran a pretty good amount in college as well. You have this weird vision in your mind that Lamar Jackson seeks contact like Cam Newton he doesn't. If you remember RG3 was criticized for not sliding and taking unneeded hits, in fact his last injury came when he decided to not go down. Cam Newton also seeks out contact, at least earlier in his career, combine that with them running him up the middle and that was an issue. 

I'm not even necessarily disagreeing that by running they could face more injuries, but I think your examples thus far have been bad. I'll point to Russell Wilson as a counter point. He has shown that if you use the run in a way that doesn't expose you to extra hits you can revolutionize the position. Even Desaun Watson last year was good at avoiding unneeded hits when he ran down field. You don't have to design special run plays for them and expose them to hits, you simply let them use it as an option if they get in trouble, that is where the value is it's in strategically using the ability not abusing it (Cam Newton).

I am simply saying Sean Payton is on record saying he likes the guy and Bill Bellicheck is also intrigued by the guy, two of the best offensive (and QB) minded coaches in the NFL. This idea that because he can run is a bad thing is really what bothers me. You don't want guys who bring less to the table, you want guys who bring more. Side note, I don't want the Bengals to take him unless it's in the 2nd as I just don't think it's a high enough priority yet.

1. You didn't answer the question. Did running in any way contribute to Watson's injury? I honestly don't know and I'm open to being wrong on that one.

2. Vick and RGIII aren't good examples? What about McNair, McNabb or Cunningham?

It just (mostly) seems that one of 2 things happens with running QBs:

(A) They're successful, but struggle with injuries, or (B) their success is short lived or non-existant. See Tebow, Manziel, RGIII, Kaepernick, etc.

Success stories like Newton (somewhat) and Wilson certainly aren't as common as the guys who flame out or get hurt. Vick is often considered the greatest running QB of all-time, but his passing numbers were pedestrian at best.

The jury is still out on Watson, and we'll see soon enough on Jackson. I'm not buying anything Payton and BB say pre-draft. If they were in love with Jackson, do you think they'd broadcast it? I'll buy the love if they draft the guy.

And I know how much Dalton has run through his career, but if you don't think Jackson will run more I don't know what to tell ya. And fwiw, Dalton doesn't look as thin as Jackson, so I'm not buying that they're the same size.