10-09-2018, 04:21 PM
(10-08-2018, 10:21 PM)McC Wrote: I guess we need to find that guy who can win without a pitching staff. Gotta be lots of them around, right?
NO, we need that guy to come in and have power to rebuild since owner and GM don't have a clue like Mike Brown Bungles era of 1990's. Let manager rebuild this team and bring in pitching, even if it means trading Joey Votto. Reds are in last place every year with Votto, even in 2017 good year for Votto. I'm not saying we can get one of the expensive great pitchers in baseball, and that would be a mistake also. Team needs 3 or 4 good starters and a Nasty Boys Bullpen. Also Defense, pitching no good without Defense. Now if they keep Votto, fine. If they trade Votto, fine.
Some say a manager makes no difference. I say people who say that watch too much fake wrestling. Manager makes a huge difference when given an input into player trades. Sparky came to Reds, traded fan favorites but turned team into winner. He did same at Detroit. Pete Rose had team back to winning. Lou Piniella was up in Front Office every day yelling for more pitching, and Lou made a difference. Jack McKeon made a difference here and in Miami and said if he had stayed with Reds, they never pay and sign Ken Griffey Jr. Probably right since Reds always last place with Griffey. Dusty Baker made a difference. Madden won with Tampa and Cubs, something no other managers do. Managers helped blow up and rebuild awful Cubs and Astros. People that think managers don't make a difference don't know a thing about baseball. Why even my best year in baseball as a kid was due to the manager, before and after him the managers weren't very good. That one year we had a man that knew his baseball and taught us things, he didn't just show up and leave. Taught me to step into the ball. Other managers in other years didn't teach me anything. That manager also had extra practices. He was a good manager and we won because of it. You think the Pros are different, the players know everything. All Reds players know is how to lose. How to miss cut off man, how to throw to wrong base, how to run themselves out of an inning, how not to bunt and lose games.
The Reds STINK. Worst team in baseball over the last 5 years. Just awful. Accept that. Accept that Major Changes needed STARTING WITH MANAGER. Don't bring in players and then a manager, they may not be players he wants. Bring in a Manager ASAP, and let him help blow up the team and rebuild it. I like catchers as managers, they know pitching, defense, hitting. I see Reds have interviewed a couple catchers. I might add Red Sox minor league winning manager and ex Red Champ Joe Oliver, Catcher. Catchers know good pitching. Reds need good pitching. Joe Giradi, Mike Scioscia, Joe Oliver, David Ross, I'm hoping a catcher as next Manager. I don't think Reds ever sought out Johnny Bench enough on his knowledge of the game. A catcher as a manager can see from the dugout if a pitcher is on, or off, has a future on team or just doesn't have it. Who better to go to the mound than a catcher Manager.
Reds can't afford top pitchers in the game most expensive, and bad direction. They should start with getting best Nasty Boys bullpen in baseball, that they can afford. Reds have a couple starters worth keeping. No reason Reds can't find a couple starters they can afford to give them innings and get them to the bullpen innings. Homer Bailey they should try to trade for nothing in return just to dump his salary. I would add Joe Votto to Bailey in a package deal if nobody wants Bailey. Reds free up half their payroll for a whole new team right there. That's up to the new Manager though, not me. They need a new Manager to blow it all up and rebuild.
This attitude that new manager can't win with such bad pitching is WRONG. You bring in a new manager ASAP, before free agency and trades, so he can dump Reds players and bring in Pitching and other things Reds need to WIN. Just like Bengals dumped coaches to rebuild and are now 4-1, it all started with admitting team had major problems. If Bengals had problems near .500 ball, then Reds are a disaster area. The Reds Triple A and Double A teams stink also. Trading veterans for minor league players hasn't panned out at all. There are innings eating veterans Reds can afford to pitch them into 6th inning. Maybe not shutout pitchers, but will keep score close. Reds can find some veteran pitchers they can afford. Get good long relievers and middle relievers, get a Nasty Boys Bullpen because Reds can afford to pay relievers and build that.
1968 Bengal Fan
