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The Mike and Marvin Show an Epic Fail
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After the lost decade of the 90's it's easy to lose sight of what a good Bengals team looks like.

Before Mike Brown inherited the team and appointed himself GM, here is what the Bengals were:

Two MVP QBs in Kenny Anderson and Boomer Esiason.

The team appeared in 12 playoff games, winning 5 and losing 7 (including two Super Bowls).

The Bengals teams of the 80's were feared. It went toe-to-toe with the best teams in the NFL. Its offenses were innovative and its defenses were talented. It had superb offensive lines, superb receivers, running backs, etc.


Then came Mike Brown, the self appointed GM know-it-all, who turned out to know very little about actually fielding a winning team.

The Mike Brown teams have appeared in 7 playoff games, losing all of them, and the team was really only in one of those games.

The lost decade of the 90's sank fans so deep that the slight improvement brought by Marvin Lewis has caused fans to believe this team is a contender.

But when we look at how good teams respond in big games, it's easy to see that the Bengals just don't have that IT factor that contenders need to have to be a legit contender.


I'm sure someone who loves to cherry pick single game stats will find a game here and there where the Bengals have responded like a contender, but when you look at the rein of Mike Brown as a whole all you will find are teams who disappoint consistently and routinely.

Marvin Lewis is 0 for 7 in the playoffs, an all-time NFL record worst. Jim Mora was 0 for 6 and the next worst was 0 for 3. Marvin Lewis teams fold in big games. Mike Brown teams fold period.

QB Andy Dalton is also the general of the NFL's all-time QB worst playoff record at 0 for 4, with 1 TD pass, 6 INTs (2 pick 6s), 4 FUMs. Yep, that's more TDs to the wrong team than to his own.

Here's some playoff records of current QBs: Brady 27-10 playoff record, Wilson 8-4, Eli 8-4, Rodgers 9-7, Pig Ben 13-8, Newton 3-4, Luck, 3-3, Flacco 10-5, Brees 7-6, Stafford 0-3 (do we consider Stafford a top 10 guy? Probably not.), Rivers 4-5.

How about passer rating? Some consider this to be the real QB stat. Here's some all times QB playoff rating stats (not a complete list, just making a point): Bart Starr 104.8, Kurt Warner 102.8, Matt Ryan 100.8, Drew Brees 100.7, Aaron Rodgers 99.4, Alex Smith 97.4, Russell Wilson 94.1, Kenny Anderson 93.5, Tom Brady 90.9, Joe Flacco 88.6, Cam Newton 87.7, Eli Manning 87.4, Pig Ben 86.4, Philip Rivers 85.2. Andy Dalton has a 57.8 playoff passer rating.

Only Mike Brown would keep Marvin Lewis on as head coach for 15 years of disappointment. Yes, there was improvement in the team with Marvin Lewis, but the improvement has not been any where near to what the team was under Paul Brown.

Someone who loves to cherry pick stats will come up with some numbers that shows this or that, but don't be fooled. This team is going nowhere and has gone nowhere under Mike and Marvin. Maybe Dalton would play better under a different coach, but for the Bengals, under Marv, Dalton doesn't have what it takes to lead this team to the promised land. Possibly no QB has what it takes to do the job under Mike and Marv.


Each year we have hope for the draft, because we generally consider that this team drafts pretty well. The team has picked a few gems in Atkins, Dunlap, Green and others. But the team has also whiffed badly on several key picks. I'm watching the Rams and KC right now and the Rams lose Kupps last week for the year and in comes this guy Reynolds who makes play after play. Yet, my Bengals lose Green for a few games and their 2nd round WR Boyd can't catch a cold and top 10 pick Ross is still lost on the field and takes 7 targets to make 2 catches. The receivers don't show up, but the RBs had 5 catches on 5 targets, but are ignored when the game was on the line.


Wow! What a difference! In the 80's it could easily have been the Bengals in this game tonight, but alas we have the Mike Brown version today.


I want a contender, not a pretender!

Sadly, Mike and Marvin are the latter.
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The Mike and Marvin Show an Epic Fail - BengalChris - 11-20-2018, 02:11 AM

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