08-01-2019, 07:05 PM
(08-01-2019, 06:09 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Stop moving the goalposts.
You said they never make any moves for good players and that is 100% wrong. We improved our pitching staff from the worst in the league to one of the best and Gray and Bauer will both be back next year.
The Reds tried, but how would they know that our All-star 2B would be lost to injury and our star closer would forget how to close. Plus we have had a lot of bad luck in one-run games. The Reds have outscored their opponents by 29 runs. That is 6th best in the NL. Last year we were outscored by over 100 runs and were 13th out of 15 in the NL.
Personally I am enjoying this season a lot more than a 100 loss season with the "hope" of a winner in "a couple of years".
Talk about moving the goalposts!
At no point here did I say they never make any moves for good players. At worst I said "they might do just enough to try to convince us all that they've got a shot at grabbing a wildcard spot if things fall the right way", which is a pretty clear reference to what they did last offseason that I guess flew right over your head. You're doing what you always do when you get into it with someone on here and making up your own points and misreading what people said to try to score points off of people, which makes it pretty damn pointless to even try to have a discussion with you. Don't put words in to my mouth.
Like I said in the *exact same post you quoted*, Gray's been a good acquisition. Roark's been average, and now he's gone. Wood just finally played a game for them, and even if he is good for them he's gone after the season. So that's a yay, a big whoop, and a big whoop. Good on the Reds for that, I guess, but let's not pretend this is any indication that the Reds are willing to go all in on winning. But hey, "the Reds tried".
Meanwhile, you're dodging the real question here - do you think the Reds are going to go all-in to build a winner around this amazing rotation they have next year (for one year only)? As far as I'm concerned they sure as hell had better or all of this was for nothing (outside of keeping the "at least we're not terrible" group of fans happy, I guess), and yes, that means doing even more than they did last offseason. I'm betting the Reds buy into every single one of these talking points you and talk radio love so much ("look at the run differential!" and "if they were just a little more lucky!") and use that as an excuse to stand pat, personally, but I guess we'll see.
Do you expect the Reds to go balls-to-the-wall to win next year with this rotation, or not? There's only one acceptable answer.
