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(11-01-2019, 03:39 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Im not too picky of the guy at Tackle although i like Wirfs i just want them to go OT round 1 best tackle available.  Simmons is not a 3/4 lionebacker as he has played some safety this year he is a fly around the field with speed linebacker who can go sideline to sideline not an edge rusher smh  Murray and or Simmons instantly start and are major upgrades over what is on the roster...both will be late first round talents selected and waiting again til the 3rd or 4th round to address linebacker makes it seem as if u havent been watching the bengals defense this year nor last.  Im all about addressing the offensive line but in ur theory u dont have us addressing QB so ur banking on finely with our current offensive line coming in and proving he can be our starting qb of the future or atleast another couple years. which i 100% disagree with.  if they trade back in round 1 and collect another 1rst round pick and go Best TAckle Available and best linebacker available (hopefully simmons or Murray) and then come back in 2 and grab Eason and then in 3 grab a guard (rookie guards early can come in and play well) you have now addressed the QB position with a frnachise style big armed QB which Mike brown loves youve addressed the linebacker situation with speed and athleticism and top talent which this team DESPERATLEY NEEDS  and also the offensive line with a first round tackle and an early day 2 guard to play left or right guard.  alot can be fixed in 2 days if the bengals are SMART and not stupid.  too many holes to address Oline with every pick bud.  no necessary either.  You draft a tackle and guard with ur first and third round picks resign hopkins you now have Jonah williams Rookie guard Hopkins hopfully billy price and first round rookie tackle at right tackle.  thats plenty good talent for mixon to rush for 1200 and a qb to be protected.  cmon now

Holy wall of words.... break it up into paragraphs for easier reading please.

I will attempt to address this. 

1st.  I have been watching this defense, it sucks and our LBer play has been terrible for many years.  However your assuming that these 2 LBers are the only ones that have any talent in this draft.  Bachie is JUST as talented as these 2 and could instantly upgrade over Brown or Vigil.  Murray can be over aggressive and has taken bad angles.  That leads to missed tackles.  Simmons is listed as more of an OLB, which is a need but not a 1st round one.

2nd.  I like the Eason pick, but MB doesn't LOVE big armed QBs.... fans do.  MB may pick Eason, but only to appease the fanbase to fill in the seats.  That isn't SMART, that is stupid.  That isn't fixing the problems but changing out parts hoping the customers don't notice so you can continue making money off of them.  Big arm QBs don't translate to wins, but they do translate to flashy highlights that make it seem they are good.

3rd.  You are hoping that Price turns it around, and I am not in total disagreement with you, but in the end you can't rely on it.  You have just as much chance of hitting on a draft pick as you do a player turning around.  Not only that but if Price does turn it around you still have a need at OLine.  Williams, Hopkins, Price... and in your case Wirfs (btw his name sounds like whiffs and the jokes will write themselves if I am correct about him).  You then are hoping in a later draft pick to come in to start.

Finally.  I know my wish list is just that, an unrealistic wish list.  I don't think any team has ever went back to back to back OLine.  I don't see them taking Thomas in the 1st.  They may take a OG in the 2nd and more than likely will not take a Center in the 3rd.  If I were being realistic, they take QB (whichever one they think will fill in the seats), LBer (not your 2 guys) and then probably take a OT/OG rated Lineman in the 3rd.  We may get lucky and all 3 are good and can win us some games and be productive, but it isn't very likely.

The reason it isn't likely is that even with that OT/OG combo being good.  Williams may or may not work out, which makes him a ?, but even if he is, we now have Williams, Hopkins and that OT/OG rookie.  We still need another OG or OT depending on which position that combo player plays BEST at.  You say you HOPE Price turns it around, OK, what if he doesn't?  If he does that is only 4 out of the 5 spots needed, that is better but still having a need on the line.

My philosophy in football is that you can win with bad LBer play... but you can't win with bad OLine play.  Fix the OLine and you are in every game you are in, shoot outs... you are in it.  A good to great OLine improves your QB play, your running game and can keep your defense off the field.  LBer play only works if the rest of the defense does its job and pressures the QB from the DLine to DBs covering the WRs.

So save your "c'mon now" for people like yourself that seems to want to turn us into the Browns by grabbing "big arm" QBs and "speedy" LBers just because they are flashy.  No, my wishlist isn't flashy, but at least it is addressing the biggest need on this team, and that need is the difference between success and failure.  I could be wrong on my assessments and all of the guys I list could all be terrible, which would still leave us needing OLine,  but at least we are trying to address the issue and I say continue addressing it, until it is fixed.
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LINEBACKER!? - SadFaceBengal15 - 10-31-2019, 12:41 PM
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