Trade down mock 2.0

[Bengalpool]

(02-10-2020, 02:50 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Im more than happy to debate and prove my reasoning. Also I never changed the topic just addressed a different part of it.
Yes. Qb is the most important. But i prefer a less riskier option, in addition to building a team before grabbing the qb. Also yes 12 minimum starting positions. 4 oline 1 wr 2 dline  2 lbers 2 cbs 1 safety... as far as the qbs just off top of my head, Matthew stafford, can newton(outside of 1 great year), Phillip rivers, if I wasn’t at work could look up a whole lot more.. if burrow comes here I hope he does well. I hope hen is elite... but answer this. If the browns had drafted Lamar jackson instead of mayfield, would the browns Noel of rebuild be looked at as the standard? Probably. They built a team. Then went after the qb(just looks like the wrong one at this time).

You are LITERALLY taking a risk with every single pick! BUT! There are players which are PROJECTED to be elite in the NFL coming from college that you just can't justify passing on. *Cough, Burrow, cough*…

SO! With that being said, and both of us agreeing that the Quarterback position is the most important when it comes to wins, you take Burrow and you go from there. Our offense is actually not bad. We will get Jonah Williams this year (+1 1st round pick), Joe Mixon who is probably the best RB in the game right now, a receiving corp that is underrated (with or without AJ, plus this years WR class is as deep as it ever has been), and an improving offensive line by years end. It needs a couple pieces, but it's not as far from being good as you're saying. I would love a reliable TE and one more OL piece.

I can argue that you're taking the biggest gamble by trading away from the most sure player (next to Chase Young) for a bunch of players that aren't anywhere near Burrow's level of skill and success in college. Burrow will take this underrated and undervalued team and make everyone around him on offense better! And IF we are lucky, we pick up 2 or maybe just 1 player in FA that is a proven starter to help lighten up our draft needs come April.

Breathe a little Jpoore. We need a few pieces from being a successful team in the playoffs outside of Joe Burrow, yes. But Joe Burrow will improve this team by himself without any other offseason acquisitions. I'm not saying just him will put us over the hump, and I can't guarantee Burrow to be a HoF QB who will bring us our first Lombardi Trophy to Cincy, but I will tell you that he is by far the best option for this team right now to see those things happen. Love simply is not.

Now about your ""elite but never done anything"" QB's. If you consider those QB's "elite", what do you consider Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson? You HONESTLY believe that if you put Rivers, Newton or Stafford in the shoes of any of those 6 QB's that I listed off that they too would have won a championship? Rivers has had teams with great supporting casts. Same with Newton and Stafford. The 6 QB's that I listed made their teams better. I'm just not buying your small list of QB's as "elite". Not in comparison to what I know to be elite. Not a chance. Out of the 3, Rivers may have a slim chance of making the HoF. I wouldn't even think to bet that.

I'm still waiting on at least 21 more QB's who are "elite but never done anything" when you have time.