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(06-30-2022, 08:46 PM)Whatever Wrote: I am focused on the playoffs because playoff football is much different than regular season football.  Look at Marvin Lewis's tenure as HC or the absolute poundings Joe Burrow took at the hands of the Rams and Titans if you need more proof of that.  As I said, I'm looking for pieces that will put us over the top in the playoffs to win a Super Bowl.  

So what is your argument, exactly?  Are you saying that the Bengals will be on the outside looking into the playoffs if we don't sign anybody else?  Are you saying we aren't even a Top 7 team in the AFC on paper and need to sign more guys to make the playoffs?  Are you saying Chase, Higgins, and Boyd can't carry the load for OBJ in the regular season?  If so, that's all the more reason to bring in OBJ.

News flash, the Browns are in disarray and don't have a QB and the Steelers have Mitch Trubisky.  The AFCN is weaker this year on paper than it was last year.  Sure, you can argue the first place schedule, but let's see how Tyler Boyd fared against playoff teams in the regular season last year...

Steelers=4 catches on 6 targets, 36 yards.
Packers=4 catches on 5 targets, 24 yards
Raiders=6 catches on 8 targets, 49 yards
Steelers=2 catches on 2 targets, 15 yards
49'ers=4 catches on 5 targets, 55 yards
Chiefs=4 catches on 6 targets, 36 yards

See the pattern there with the playoffs?  Boyd does not play well against top teams.  

I missed the part where OBJ was a serial rapist or clinically insane.  I also haven't heard about him cold cocking any girls while he was in college.  You want a SB win or choir boys?  I assume you were vehemently against the La'el Collins signing, then.  

You realize LSU used Chase(as well as Justin Jefferson) in the slot as well as outside?  You also realize OBJ also saw a good deal of time in the slot when he was with the Giants, right?  Seriously, this is an uneducated take.  Go back and watch the infamous "Chase is on the Case" play and look where he lines up.  Also check out OBJ's TD in the SB and look at where he lines up.  Seriously, you're trying to vaguely argue Boyd was "used differently," but don't even know enough about WR usage to know Chase and OBJ are not purely outside WR's.

My plan is to allow the offense greater flexibility to take advantage of defensive match ups and get it's biggest playmaker the ball in space by swapping out a slot WR for a guy who can line up inside or outside and greatly improve our WR depth in the process.  Your plan appears to be trips through fantasy land, praying this year's Golden Binns winner can actually come through if his number gets called, and excuse making for a guy who repeatedly disappeared in big games last year simply because you don't seem to like a potential upgrade.

You don't change the very best thing about your offense last year. You get Chase on 1-on-1 situations outside and he Mosses a guy for a TD. Has Chase played some slot? Yes. Is he a game changer on the outside? Yes. 





As for OBJ in the playoffs, the previous time his team made the playoffs he was hurt (sound familiar?) and the time before that he had 4 catches on 11 targets (36.4%) for 28 yards. So yes, it is JUST a 4 game sample size. He's not shown consistently he's some magical game changer in the playoffs. Benson had a 169 rushing yard playoff game at 8.0 yards per carry in 2009, that doesn't change the fact that in the 2010 season he had 3.5 yards per carry and in the 2011 playoffs he had 7 carries for 14 yards. One single playoff run doesn't change the reality of a player. The player is still who they are.

You listed Boyd against playoff teams last year but forgot to mention in 3 of those the Bengals absolutely blew out the teams (Steelers x2, Raiders) so Burrow threw for 190 yards or less in all three of them because they won them 97-33.

I want a team that won't implode on itself due to locker room and social media BS. OBJ doesn't have a good record of that when he's with a team for any length of time.

You talking about fantasy land and golden binns winners just tells me that you're not even reading my posts. I've long been vocal this entire offseason that they need to bring in a quality 4th WR to replace all the snaps given to PS guys who aren't worth a damn, but the key part of that is they need a 4th WR, not a injured diva who thinks he's better than he is. Chase will be even better this year and get even more targets, Higgins will be even better this year and get even more targets, Boyd will be rocksteady, and they just need a solid guy who will be productive and not rock the boat as the 4th WR while also being healthy. 

Not a 30-year-old guy who has missed 27 games and forced his way off 2 teams in the last 5 years.
https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/odell-beckham-jr/6942

The Bengals have to play a 1st place schedule this year. They currently have the 3rd highest SoS for 2022. Tons of talent poured into the AFC this offseason. A healthy Jacoby Brissett is better than a humpty dumpty Mayfield, the Ravens will presumably not have their entire roster hurt again, Trubisky is a joke but they had the bloated corpse of Rapistburger last year and still won 9.5 games. 

Focus on getting to the playoffs first so we don't look like a bunch of assholes like the Colts did last year. They need a 4th WR upgrade who will actually play and contribute in the regular season while not being a problem.

Anyway, I am done with you man, you're starting to go personal more than I have tolerance for, have a good holiday weekend.