08-13-2022, 03:14 PM
(08-08-2022, 01:55 AM)guyofthetiger Wrote: Rose and his Philadelphia 1980 teammates celebrated their championship today. Rose was booed because he has been accused of sex with a 14 year old girl 55 years ago. Rose replied she was 16. I am disappointed that Rose did this. He was my childhood idol. Until now.
1. That would make it 1967. This is coming out 55 years later ? It doesn't pass the smell test. And this modern day America where you are Guilty just because someone accused you of something. What happened to USA innocent until proven Guilty ? Now I am 67 so I can say this, this woman would now be 69 or 70 and maybe the cheese is falling off the cracker. In her old age she imagines things, it's possible. I know many older people who on trying to remember things long ago, are way off, and I have to tell them that is not how it happened at all, not even close. Over the years they have confused dreams with reality. So why 55 years later ? Maybe this old woman is having Senior Moments of Confusion ? What happened to USA Innocent until Proven Guilty ?
2. Philly Boo's everybody. Richie Allen use to wright BOO in the infield dirt with his cleats when he played first base in Philly. I do not blame Curt Flood for fighting the trade to Philly from St Louis. Maybe if it was The Dodgers or somebody, maybe Curt Flood wouldn't have been the player that began to open up Free Agency and make The Players Union stronger. Philly Boo's everybody.
3. The Phillies DO NOT win the 1980 World Series without Pete Rose. They had Mike Schmidt and Steve Carlton but they had them and never won anything. Adding Pete Rose is what brought The World Championship to Philly. I would point out a play in the World Series where 2 Phillies are together, and they drop the ball, but Pete Rose backing up the play as he always did with Reds, Pete catches the ball the other Phillies dropped. That was a big play and a big out in that World Series. The Phillies DO NOT win the World Series in 1980 without Pete Rose. I would add the Detroit Tigers DO NOT win the World Series without adding Sparky Anderson, in fact The Reds DO NOT win the World Series without adding Sparky Anderson.
4. Fans Boo. Jackie Robinson said the worst city he was ever treated was Cincinnati, the most Southern team at the time. I heard Reds Fans BOO Johnny Bench during his divorce and yell out that he was Gay. I heard Reds Fans Boo Joe Morgan just 2 years after he had won Back To Back MVP Awards during Reds only Back to Back World Series Wins. 2 players who should have NEVER had Reds Fans BOO him. I heard Bengals Fans BOO Ken Anderson as he laid on the field injured at start of 1981 Season. Anderson came back to be MVP and take Bengals to their first Super Bowl, and it showed how STUPID The Fans are. So there have been times that I was ashamed of some of the So Called Fans at Reds or Bengals Games. That they say they have the right to Boo does not mean they were not acting like ignorant morons. I felt the Fans behavior at the Bengals vs Steelers Play-Off Game in 2015 season was not a shinning moment
Now Pete Rose was honored in Cincinnati and MLB allowed Pete Rose Day, #14 retired, and the next year the Pete Rose Statue Day. THAT may be as good as it gets for Pete. He is in The Reds Hall of Fame and Pete is Honored in Cincinnati and so Pete may have to take that and accept not being honored in Philly, or Cooperstown New York.
Pete Rose passed Stan Musial and Ty Cobb in Hits. Doubtful anybody ever passes Pete Rose in Hits. Pete was an All Star at 2nd Base, Left Field, Right Field, Center Field, 3rd Base and 1st Base in his career. He was called Charlie Hustle for his all out play. In 1960's, players from the 1930's said they didn't like the modern day players, but they did like Pete Rose because he played the game hard the way their generation did. Merv Rettmound was an All-Star in the American League, but on traded to Cincinnati was on the bench as Pete started in Left, but he said he didn't mind because he gets to see THE BEST Player in Baseball everyday in Pete Rose. ......So since Pete Rose Gambling was as a Manager after he stopped playing, in my mind I can separate Pete Rose The Player who was Great, and Pete Rose The Manager who was Lousy due to Gambling. As for this 55 years old sex accusation just now coming out, I question why 55 years later, and an accusation is not a courtroom verdict. People should attend some Sex Harassment Seminars, they might learn something. Where I worked they were mandatory. Sex Harassment has a lot of Gray Areas for The Mediators to go through. Often there is not a clear cut case. Sometimes the person is guilty and sometimes the person is wrongfully accused and the accuser is guilty of slander. More often both parties could have behaved better, as per The Mediators. One thing these Seminars teach is to behave yourselves, but also that Nobody is Guilty just because they have been Accused. That last part is important because most of The Modern Day National Enquirer Reading Americans are stupid enough to believe everything they hear, and fail to understand that Nobody is Guilty just because they have been Accused. This is NOT Communist Russia, I Hope.
1968 Bengal Fan
