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Having a great QB on a rookie deal is a cheat code in the NFL
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(09-25-2023, 01:17 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Using motion is not considered "scheming" the way we use it.  Our goal is simply to provide Joe a tell as to what the defense is playing so he can get the ball out much faster.  Scheming with motion is what Miami does in giving Hill a running start which is tremendously difficult to cover.  Miami was showing signs last year of what they are doing now, excellent offense the gets playmakers free which opens the door to the run game.

"They rely on timing routes, the skill of the elite WRs, and the accuracy of their QB to move the ball...there isn't anything wrong with that."  We very rarely have free runners.  And when we do it is due to a break down in defense or a flaw Joe/Coaches witnessed on an earlier play; see Chase's famous hole shot vs KC.

Our method is much more difficult in that it requires a WR to win every route or make a contested catch, and for Joe to make a close to perfect throw.
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We do scheme for the TE occasionally.  Hurst TD vs Bills and the almost TD vs KC, and Wilcox's TD vs the Bucs were all excellently schemed plays.  I can recall a 3 for the RB's; Evans vs Detroit and TD vs KC, Mixon's last week were nice.

Traditional motion is a man/zone tell.

The Bengals used motion last week at times the way that Miami does. They actually had some good play designs at times, but no one wants to give them credit.

The first one below is a play that they reversed what they did against Cleveland in week 1 (gave the ball to Chase). Instead they faked to chase and went to Mixon for a chunk play. They were banking on the Ravens watching the week 1 tape, saw Chase in the backfield, and counted on the ball going to him.

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This is another play where they use Irv in pre snap motion. First to tell man/zone, then use him in full sprint motion up until the ball is snapped to give him a head start and advantage against his defender to pick up the first:

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RE: Having a great QB on a rookie deal is a cheat code in the NFL - WeezyBengal - 09-25-2023, 02:15 PM

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