07-16-2015, 11:24 AM
(07-16-2015, 10:50 AM)jj22 Wrote: The qb can be an argument if your desperate for one, but truly great receivers won't make that argument. We've seen what Megatron has done with 3rd string qb's when Stafford struggled to stay healthy. He still put up elite numbers, led the league, as did Gordon, as did D.T with Tebow, as did Steve Smith pre Cam, etc. The qb isn't really an excuse for Green. Besides we've seen his issues show up with elite qb's (Brees, and Luck) in the probowl (dropped passes, miscommunication and being manhandled by physical corners). Brees even had to pull him aside for a talking to when he repeatedly struggled to connect with him.
He should get a fair contract tho. But an elite receiver can make an average qb. If Green needs an elite qb to be elite then not sure he is as good as we think.
DT had 32 catches, 551 yards, and 4 TDs with Tebow. Interesting that every year after that, he's been considered one of the best WRs in the league. More changed than just the offensive scheme.
Any of those guys would look even better than they already do if they had Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball to them for a full season. I don't know how anybody could argue that. At the end of the day, these guys will still have similar statistics as they already do due to scheming and whatnot. Calvin Johnson wouldn't see 300 targets if he had Luck or Rodgers throwing him the ball, so his statlines would still be about what they are today, it just may look a bit more pretty and efficient in the process.
You pretty much said it without realizing it that A.J. IS elite because he's able to put up great numbers catching balls from a non-elite QB. You said the truly great receivers don't the QB excuse, well A.J. doesn't need it, which with your logic makes him great/elite.
Nobody outside of a Bengals message board (strangely enough) thinks A.J. Green is anything but one of the top receivers in the NFL right now.
