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Browns interested in McCarron per Mary Kay Cabot
(04-15-2017, 07:53 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: The game has evolved in 14 years. But anyway.

Again, talked about how the offensive line got better. But they weren't good his first year nor the years prior.

Brady didn't have a reliable offense like the Bengals did. Brady had Troy Brown and Antowain Smith. Troy Brown only eclipsed 1000 yards receiving one time in his 15 year career. And it was in 2001.
Smith eclipsed 1000 rushing yards twice in his 9 year career.

Now, would you say the way the NFL is played now is different since 2001?

Also, who had the better offense? Would you rather have an offense with Antowain Smith, Troy Brown, David Patten, Terry Glenn, and Jermaine Wiggins?
Or would you rather have Jeremy Hill, AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, and Tyler Eifert?

McCarron averaged less than 6 yards per pass attempt in his final 3 games.

The thing also is Brady struggled quite a bit early, but by his 3rd game he had already surpassed 300 pass yards. McCarron has only surpassed 200 passing yards twice in his five games. With the kind of offense we had.

Also, are we going to ignore that McCarron had less that 100 yards passing until 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter in the playoffs?

McCarron is nothing like Brady. It's hard to compare players from different eras. And yes. The early 2000's is a different era.

Tom Brady having a 86.5 QB rating in 2001 would rank him 6th. If that were 2015? That ranks him 25th. Right below Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I can also throw in another player. Matt Cassel.

His completion percentage was 63.4%. TD percentage was a 4.1. INT percentage was 2.1. Yards per attempt average was ALSO 7.2 like McCarron. AVA was 7.0. But his Y/C was at 11.3. Rating was 89.4. But he averaged 110 more YPG than McCarron did. Sack rate was also a 8.3.

So Cassel had more epxerience, so a bigger size sample, and had very identical  numbers that McCarron had. Some were better, some were worse. Except had more games, more wins, and more sample size.

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Yeah, excellent rebuttal to the rate stats - "the game was different" and "but Tom Brady's entire offense was crap."

Typical response on this board when it comes to AJM - aversion of facts and data, abundance of special pleading and post-hoc rationalizations.

I don't really care who you want to throw out there from recent draft classes, good luck finding one with that comp%, TD%, INT%, YPA and QB rating in their first season in the NFL.

I'm sure this is really frustrating for the AJM bashers, all these statistics in black and white. I guess that's why people resort to ignorant comments like "he can't beat zone" and "he gets sacked too much" and "he played like crap" and "he lost us the game" and "other QBs didn't have such a great super-awesome team like AJM had."

Matt Cassel sat on the bench behind Tom Brady for 3 whole years before he was pressed into duty. Do you really think AJM would play the same or worse than he did in 2015 if he were to take over at QB this year?
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RE: Browns interested in McCarron per Mary Kay Cabot - BigSeph - 04-15-2017, 08:31 PM

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