05-24-2017, 03:51 PM
(05-23-2017, 06:30 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Ok, if you want to go total Marv history (I can't believe I am the one defending him), I think it is only fair to compare him to the 14 years prior to his arrival.
Bengals record from 1989-2002: 72-150
Playoff appearances in that time frame: 2 games
Playoff wins in that time frame: 1. in 1990, the infamous "Jerry" Bowl
Bengals record from 2002-2016: 93-80-2
Playoff appearances in that time frame: 7
Playoff wins in that time frame: 0
There is your history. You can be a cynic and say that Marv has had zero improvement because they haven't won a single playoff game, but I am much happier with a team that has been in the hunt 50% of the time, and been close many more times. From 1990 to Marv's beginning in 2002, this team had no hope. They do now. I am not going to dissect playoff game by playoff game and make excuses why they lost. Only one team wins the Super Bowl and it hasn't been them.
My post that brought you to your "fourteen" response dealt with LAST year, and tried to provide evidence as to why they will be right back in the thick of things THIS year. If you would rather live in the past and be upset about Marv's previous failures in the post season, have at it.
I choose to look forward and be excited about where this team is headed.
By the way, do you feel the same about the Reds? Have they won a playoff series since 1990? Do you not enjoy the team any longer because of all their post season failures? Just curious.
Your numbers are a little off.
From 1989-2002 we were 72-152 (.321) in regular season and 1-1 in the playoffs.
Marvin is 118-103-3 (.533) in regular season and 0-7 in the playoffs.
To your overall point though, I just have to wonder when people will stop pointing to the 90's in order to justify Marv's mediocre-at-best results. In 2022 will we still be looking back 30 years in terror? Maybe we should forget about what happened back when there was AOL dial up and pagers and start judging Marv by his own merits. Marv's win % is barely enough to justify his continued employment, and no team not headed by Mike Brown would keep Marvin after all the playoff/prime-time failure. The regular season success hasn't been frequent or strong enough to offset the record-setting failures on the big stage.
I look at Marv's past and I'm just not as hopeful as you. Maybe for the regular season, but I'd almost bet my house that he won't win the playoff game if they get there.
Fwiw, the Reds last won a playoff series in 1995, not 1990. That said, I'm just as frustrated by their failures, even though I realize that baseball has no salary cap and less parity.
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