According to yahoo, Bengals tied with Giants for 18th best QB options in the NFL

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(07-05-2017, 02:22 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Great discussion here, honestly. But bottom line is this:

It's been 14 years. 14 years of Marvin Lewis and not a single playoff win. We rarely ever beat Pittsburgh. We struggle mightily in Primetime games. 9/10 times we completely fall apart whenever the going gets tough... This has been a constant for 14 years. To everyone defending Marvin, at what point is enough, enough? Seriously, what is it going to take? I feel like many who make excuses for Marv are still riding the "Black Jesus" hype we all had from 2003-2005. So much time has passed. So much has changed since then. But what hasn't changed? Aside from a small handful of exceptions... We suck when it counts. You can point to any number of reasons why. You can blame players lack of execution, lack of poise, coordinators, injuries, plain bad luck, etc. But who's been at the helm? When will people acknowledge that the team is a reflection of their head coach? At what point will people accept that Marvin is not the one to get us over the hump? After all we've seen over the years, what makes anyone think Marvin is capable of getting us a championship? 

Again... When is enough, enough?

I don't see to many people making excuses, and even if they do, I don't blame them. I hate to rain on your parade, but Marv is not the problem here. That would be the owner of the team. Unless Marv decided to keep himself employed, give himself a new contract, and be ok with a roughly .500 career winning %... and do so because loyalty, nepotism and "it's better than the 90s". 

But remember, we can certainly take pride in Mike Brown being a loving person, rehabilitation specialist, and gracious giver of second, third and in some cases, 11 chances. This matters, right?