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TOP 10 List of QBs around the league
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(05-17-2015, 07:13 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: I tend to value all stats simply because sometimes QBR can be misleading. Quarterback A throws three straight passes, completing them each for three yards. Plugging three completions, nine yards, three attempts, zero touchdowns, and zero interceptions into the equation above, and you get a quarterback rating of 97.92, which is a very good rating.
Quarterback B throws three straight passes, the first two land incomplete, and the third is caught for a 30 yard gain. Putting those numbers into the equation, you get a quarterback rating of 71.53. In the first situation, the offense is now facing fourth down, where in the second the ball just went 30 yards down field.

The first quarterback has a rating of an all pro, while the second has the rating of someone fighting for their job.

With your "efficiency" stats Romo's QBR drops To a below average 44 in the final three mins. Hence the reason for the most INTs in the 4th when tied or leading by 7 or fewer.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/how-bad-is-tony-romo-in-the-clutch/
Again no one is crowning Luck the best. But IMO he's is one of the best right now. We will see if Manning holds up. I think this will be his last season. After breaking Farves record.

Now you are trying to cherry pick. You just listed THREE (not a ton) of stats YOU consider "team" stats.

Hard to find a QB with better performances than Flacco over the past FIVE seasons (not two) Most games with 95+ QBR (your favorite stat). Flacco has 20 touchdowns and just three interceptions during that time.

Of course any stat will be awful with a sample size of three. Over the course of an entire season, those inaccuracies are inherently rooted out. Like I said it isn't just passer rating, but Y/A and any/a as well. Dalton threw for 4,300 yards and 33 TDs (second in the league) in 2013, but that doesn't mean he had a great year. It was slightly above average. Wilson balls the **** out every year, but just because he doesn't have the volume doesn't make him bad. Volume stats suck.

Romo has a 93.1 rating in the final two minutes of the game, which is the active leader, and over the past three years has the most QWDs. The narrative that he is garbage In crunch time is wrong. He struggled early in his career, but has since been great late in games. Kinda like how Flacco struggled in the playoffs early in his career. The only difference is that his team lost. If he was carried (like Flacco) than maybe we would be talking about how Romo leads in the "wins" stat.

I picked four of the six stats you listed so how is that cherry picking? And yes, wins are team stats. Are you telling me Flacco is great because of the victory over the Pats when he went 4/10? No, the team won that game, like they did for many of the victories required to break those records you listed.

Once again, I have said Flacco improved and has been great playoff QB. That doesn't mean he was at the beginning of his career. I don't see you're point here.

Edit: Just looked closer at the article you posted. They are using ESPN's QBR, which is different from passer rating. I'm hesitant to use that because I do not know the formula and know they have some subjectivity in their grading. It's the same reason I haven't posted PFF or something. Also, look at the QBs who are right behind him in INTs. They are all very good.
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RE: TOP 10 List of QBs around the league - MrRager - 05-17-2015, 07:35 PM

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