I Miss Marvin Jones.

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(11-24-2017, 12:00 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Except it doesn't matter if someone is a better prospect, it doesn't matter if someone has better workout numbers, it doesn't matter if someone had better college production, and it doesn't matter if someone was drafted higher.

All that matters is production on the field at an NFL level.

The same reason why if you asked the Chiefs if they would trade Kareem Hunt for Joe Mixon, they would laugh in your face. Joe Mixon was considered a better prospect, but when it comes down to it, Mixon has played like crap and Hunt has been great.

You gotta take off those orange tinted glasses that are affecting your judgement of Bengals players' actual ability, man.

This is true, and your bias against the players (or support of the pinhead coaches) is what is affecting your judgement.  There is a shit ton more evidence of players that end up showing they were capable after either leaving here or once they got their shot here, but had to sit behind poor play.  

I loved Kareem Hunt in college, as a big MAC guy...His first carry, a fumble.  Did his coach bench him?  No?  He went on the set the NFL record for all-purpose yards in a first game.  That is coaching. Ross, sat and lived in the dog house.  At least Ross got 12 yards on his carry before fumbling, which would have made him the #1 rusher in half our games.

I have seen these same players (Dalton, Green, Gio, etc) have Pro-Bowl Caliber performances with a coach like Hue or Gruden.  But now they suck.  Is that the player?  Did they suddenly forget how to play football?  Or does everyone on the other team (I know it, and would imagine they do as well) know what plays are coming from our High School formations right down to the gap  of the rushing attack.  

We will settle this debate if they successfully bring in a coach that doesn't act busy with paperwork (makes me want to puke) and actually knows how to prioritize, teach, and execute a creative game plan.