04-24-2019, 12:34 PM
(04-24-2019, 11:33 AM)CKwi88 Wrote: I'm gonna put a Spoiler Warning here. I don't know of any leaks, but I know that a lot of people like to go in completely blind. So in case any of my BS below is right, don't read it if you are not reading theories or analysis this far.
I'd have a real problem with a decisive dead victory. I expect there to be massive casualties, but a retreat makes no sense. How would they retreat? Could a significant number of them even survive a retreat? I mean sure, Jon and Dany and a few of the bigger names could hop on a dragon and book it to Dragonstone, but then what? Cersei has a change of heart (that would be super stupid). Everyone dies in the end? I get that it's kind of GRRM's schtick, but from a literary standpoint it would be an underwhelming ending.
I also think it will be a bittersweet living victory because of the parallels to Tolkien's Helm's Deep. It's a shame that Thrones has already used the Knights of the Vale ex Machina a la Gandalf last season, but with all the parallels (night, siege, overwhelming odds, crypts will be the gunpowder keg that screws everything up, will certainly have deaths like Haldir, Battle of Winterfell will be longer cinematically and they harped on that) I think they will be very similar. My top candidate for the endgame ex machina would be Melisandre.
*Possible Spoilers*
I agree Melsiandre is coming back and could be what changes the tide in this battle...
We have see what lord beric dondarrion can do as on resurrected by the Red Prest... Could she be bringing a whole army of Red Preist/Fire Wrights to help fight the tide?. (when does jon awaken his inner fire... He is also a Fire Wright now. Azor azule has returned.)
I see staggering losses on both sides. Yes I agree a retreat seems unlikely yet they have to make it back south to wrap up that part of the story. So my one friends theory of this is the major battle for LIFE and the battle with the white walkers is all but over after this weekend.. Then we flash forward a few months and see a possibly preggo Danny besieging the red keep. (which would possible bring on the Clegane bowl) and or Jamie/tryion/arya killing Ceresi.
How ever I don't think the End of the Battle of Winterfell will be what anyone expects... there is so many things that could happen so many little things that should turn the tide.
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Anyways anyone know what happened with all the bodies from the battle of bastards?
