Todd Haley Fired

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(01-20-2018, 12:23 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: It's easy to view the recent success of Belichick AND Brady and say that Belichick is a genius. But facts are facts as in marvin lewis going 0-7 in the playoffs. Belichick went 36-44 .450 with the Browns and 5-11 the first year without Brady. You can arguably say he is .500 with the Patriots without Brady since they went 11-5 the year Brady was injured. But in cumulative years he is still 1 out of 7 years without Brady and making the playoffs. Ironically, the year he did make the playoffs with the Browns they beat the Patriots in the wild card round and lost to the Steelers in the divisional round.  

The jury is out on Tomlin, he can develop his players and they can become All-Pro's as the Steelers have 8 this year and 7 out of the 8 are exclusively the work of Tomlin, where it can be said that both Cower and Tomlin had Big Ben as their respected All-Pro. But as you stated when Big Ben retires we will see where Tomlin lands in the standings. 

It's almost mind boggling that you would talk BB down while talking Tomlin up. In Cleveland, Belichick had the the Browns on the rise before Modell stepped in and moved the team. Without Brady, Belichick has done pretty well. Belichick has had 1 losing season with the Pats; his first. He's had 12+ wins in 8 consecutive seasons and he's had 10+ wins in 15 seasons. Oh yeah, almost forgot this...5 SB rings in 7 tries. 

He's KNOWN for taking "meh" guys from other teams and building championship teams with them. He's KNOWN for adapting his game plan to fit opponents week to week. 

There's no argument and there's no jury still out. Belichick is head and shoulders better than Tomlin and every other coach out there. 

As far as Tomlin developing guys to All Pro. That's not such a hard thing to do when they already have the talent when they arrive. I will tell you where he does have a problem, beside his coaching abilities on the field. He has a real problem with discipline on his team. Another thing you NEVER hear about from a Pats team. 

P.S. I'm assuming you mean Pro Bowlers. The Steelers don't have 8 All Pros this year.