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AD better deep ball than u think
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: The whole point is that the qb rating allows a throw to made at the 50 yard line for a td and get 158 rating. If the deep throw was made at the 51 yard line, for 50 yards, and the ball is at the 1 yard line, then the qb rating is a 80.  The next play the team scores. 
What if the the team doesn't score at all? What if on the next play the RB fumbles on the 1 yard line? So a 50 yard TD pass should equal a 50 yard pass to the 1 where the other team gets the ball?
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: This means a huge emphasis is made on where the ball is thrown. 
No, it doesn't.  A 50 yard pass that doesn't lead to a TD counts the same whether the pass was thrown in the end zone or at midfield.
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote:  Of course the whole point is to score points but that shouldn't be part of whether it was a good accurate throw or not .
It's not. The QB rating doesn't tell you whether a throw was accurate or not. 
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: Green might not be the ONLY wide receiver Dalton throws to, but he catches around 70% of all of the deep throws , so he makes up a LARGE PART of any deep throws Daltons completes. He definitely makes top 5 in most acrobatic catches and probably the most acrobatic catches in the whole league. 
Then you aren't watching the rest of the league.
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: I think as a whole the qb rating is ok as far as accuracy, it is when it used for specific throwing lengths, like throws over 30 yards,  that it becomes inaccurate and should not be used. 

The QB rating should never be used to determine a QB's accuracy. It's used to determing how effective a QB is. But even so, it shouldn't really be used by itself. It should be used in conjunction with other objective stats.
(04-24-2018, 07:09 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: The only fair analysis would be to first calculate completion % for all 32 qb starting in 2011 up until now , then adjust for offensive line ranking. 

Say a qb ranked 12 in completion % on throws over 30 yards, and the offensive line ranked 8 , then the qb ranking should be adjusted backwards by say 8 spots because the offensive line is 8 spots better than average.  The adjusted ranking would be 20 for the qb. This at least takes out any bias of the qb having a better offensive line than other qb's. 

I would make the same adjustment for receivers the qb has to throw the ball to, then add up all the rankings and get an average ranking for the qb. 

What OBJECTIVE source would you use to rank the OL or the WRs?
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RE: AD better deep ball than u think - J24 - 04-07-2018, 11:55 PM
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