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Lap’s official pick Is in..
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(04-25-2018, 07:50 AM)sonofstat Wrote: I know what you mean....however Pollack is helping choose this guy rather than PA.  from 2013 when he was assistant/coach of the OL,  first 2 OL picks  since he joined were Frederick and Zack Martin.

if they love him and rate him way ahead of the others then go for it...my slight question is at #21 a top 10 -15 player will drop - if so and ragnow is on a par with another couple of interior guys do you still go C in rd1???

That's what I'd really be latching on to if he's our pick. If Frank Pollack chose him, then he likes him, so I should like him. But the hype still bothers me.
We'll have to see who drops to our pick before we make that decision but if the likes of Derwin James or Roquan Smith drops to 21, I hope they'd take him over Ragnow. But who knows at this point. The draft can get crazy.

(04-25-2018, 07:54 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The reason for his sudden rise is because after not being ready to go at the combine, he performed very well at his Pro Day.  Before his ankle injury, he was generally considered the best Center in CFB.

I mean, PFF certainly loves him and did love him before his pro day. But I don't trust PFF at all when it comes to evaluating college players because they go by their numbers alone and ignore everything else. They recently posted a mock draft (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBVYhPqnV0) that has Maurice Hurst in the top 5, Barkley falling to 10 and a bunch of other really bizarre choices that really make me feel like their evaluations can't be trusted with respect to a player's ability to translate college football success to NFL success.

Other than PFF I haven't really found any site that considered him the best center in CFB.

The vast majority of scouting reports I've found have called him "Good not great"
https://nflmocks.com/2017/12/15/frank-ragnow-c-arkansas-2018-nfl-draft-scouting-report/
http://walterfootball.com/draft2018positionreviewC.php
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/frank-ragnow?id=32462018-0002-5598-2498-7d09b5e02409

In the concerns section they don't even really mention his injury. More his average athleticism and various pieces of technique that he must improve.

If those were the main concerns, then it makes sense that a good pro day would give him legitimacy in higher rounds, but I also don't really love the idea of drafting players based on their pro days.

But I'm just 1 person. If everyone else is excited for it, then maybe I'm just missing something. I just hope this isn't a hype pick that we'll end up regretting once he gets into the trenches and his weaknesses become problems along our offensive line.
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Lapham's Pick is In - Schmitbuck - 04-24-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - CJD - 04-25-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - CJD - 04-25-2018, 08:27 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - kevin - 04-25-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Sled21 - 04-25-2018, 03:58 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - kevin - 04-26-2018, 08:56 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Sled21 - 04-26-2018, 10:50 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - kevin - 04-26-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Sled21 - 04-26-2018, 03:30 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - TKUHL - 04-25-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - TKUHL - 04-26-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Sled21 - 04-26-2018, 08:02 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - TKUHL - 04-25-2018, 11:56 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - TKUHL - 04-25-2018, 11:58 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - TKUHL - 04-26-2018, 02:21 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Nati#1 - 04-26-2018, 03:16 AM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - Schmitbuck - 04-24-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - ochocincos - 04-24-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - psychdoctor - 04-24-2018, 05:10 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - StLucieBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:15 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - XenoMorph - 04-24-2018, 05:10 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - Schmitbuck - 04-24-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - SunsetBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:10 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - StLucieBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:16 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - SunsetBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:19 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - Synric - 04-24-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - BobJones4980 - 04-24-2018, 05:36 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - Synric - 04-24-2018, 05:38 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Sled21 - 04-25-2018, 08:13 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick. - StLucieBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:18 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Okeana - 04-25-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - 3wt - 04-25-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - 3wt - 04-25-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - jj22 - 04-24-2018, 07:33 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - Synric - 04-24-2018, 08:56 PM
Lap’s official pick Is in.. - BenZoo2 - 04-24-2018, 09:03 PM
Lap’s official pick Is in.. - BenZoo2 - 04-24-2018, 10:34 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - ochocincos - 04-24-2018, 05:02 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - SunsetBengal - 04-24-2018, 05:08 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - NATI BENGALS - 04-24-2018, 06:32 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - NATI BENGALS - 04-24-2018, 06:33 PM
RE: Lap’s official pick Is in.. - 3wt - 04-25-2018, 12:08 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - Steve - 04-24-2018, 08:57 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - SunsetBengal - 04-24-2018, 09:22 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - BURROWorBUST - 04-24-2018, 11:39 PM
RE: Lapham's Pick is In - Bengal Dude - 04-25-2018, 01:15 AM
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