08-24-2018, 06:21 PM
(08-24-2018, 05:35 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: I see that some of my responses were removed so I guess I better be careful on how I reply to you since you will probably go running.
I posted why in detail. You have yet to address the points made in the previous post and it just shows how lame any response from you will be.
Your response is the typical ignorant Green is the Greatest. No substance.
OK, Strawman alert. NO ONE said to get rid of the Green. Just that Green COULD be a factor to some bad plays that we have had. Green has at times ran poor routes and has jogged for plays when he doesn't think he is getting the ball. This does in fact lead to those overthrows, since he isn't at the spot Dalton expects him to be.
It is nonsense to believe that one player is so super duper that he can't cause some bad plays.
T.O. was considered a star WR that is holding back QBs, he is a HOF. Moss was hit with this as well in his time. Kelvin Benjamin was traded. Dez Bryant. Sammy Watkins. Giants have won 2 SBs without Odell, haven't done much since. I don't even know if they made the playoffs with Odell.
So does that answer your question? Probably not. It will probably be ignored or I am sure people will try and say that Green is better than all of them combined since Green is the Greatest.
No one is denying this.
However the point was that we don't know all of the factors in any given play and when Dalton misses his connection to Green, it isn't impossible to blame the miss on Green.
I used the words "for all we know" to clarify that we can't be sure, but their might be times where Green could be holding Dalton back. Instead of Dalton throwing to someone else, he force feeds to Green. If he doesn't throw to Green, then he is slammed for not going to his playmaker, if he does throw to Green and doesn't connect then he is blamed for forcing the ball.
Hell there are times that when Green gets the ball he wasn't the best option. Another WR could have gained more yardage or even a TD.
None of these points were addressed instead I was met with Green is the Greatest. The only one that has understood is Sunset.
I have never heard it said that any of those players you listed “held thier QB back”. Prima donnas? Sure. Pains in the ass?..definitely. But how many of those QB’s fared better after those guys left?..To be clear, I am not putting Green or any other WR on a pedestal, My point is that the notion that AJ Green is somehow the reason that Andy Dalton has had a largely mediocre career is just crazy. EVERY Qb deals with dropped balls, bad routes, and WR who at times fail to break up an interception. The great ones rise above it, and if you find yourself constantly making excuses for a guy....he isn’t one of them.
In one of your previous posts you claimed that Dalton throwing to Green in double coverage etc, was holding Dalton back. Are you blaming Green because his QB can’t make the correct decisions about where to throw the ball?...Or is that a case of Andy Dalton holding Andy Dalton back?
