Lets give Marvin credit this season ....

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(10-25-2018, 10:08 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: False. He may be a crappy owner for not turning this franchise into the likes of the Pats, but the players do care for him. He gives many, many players second (and in Pacmans case...1,000) chances to play football. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2724189-adam-pacman-jones-gets-emotional-discussing-bengals-owner-mike-browns-support

They're both at fault here. MB should never, ever let this mediocrity go on this long, but he clearly realizes that he cannot get this team to a higher level, so what's the point. ML is at fault for getting so many chances to get over the hump but has failed every time, each one worse than the other. It starts at the top, but you also need good coaches to carry out the owners goals. Problem is, we have a shitty owner, good coach, so everything falls out of place as far as alignment is concerned. You cannot have your owner not being invested, and your owner cannot have a coach that cannot execute a plan to win a SB (if we did have one).

You will always find exceptions. Of course Pacman liked Mike Brown, I bet Chris Henry liked him as well. But I can find players who couldn't wait to leave the Bengals[Corey Dillon] or stated during the draft for the Bengals not to draft them. [Marshall Faulk].

If it starts at the top then stay there, why go down to Lewis? Why don't you go to the QB with horrendous stats in his 4 playoff appearances.  
1 TD, 6 INT, 1 Fumble. You blame that on Marvin???