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Dalton's make or break year
(07-16-2019, 02:02 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: If Dalton were too leave after the season chances he could win a SB with the Pats if Brady were too retire? some times you don't know what you got until its gone

I'd expect Dalton to do better in NE than here, but if you're telling me the Patriots could replace the greatest QB of all time with Dalton and not miss a beat...well...I don't know.

At any rate, a thread about Dalton turns into a thread where we compare him to every and any QB of the past 40 years and now we are talking about putting him on multiple teams.  The real question is "Can Dalton win with the Bengals?" and so far the most compelling thing Fred has pointed out is that no QB could win here.

Anderson, Esiason, Palmer, and Dalton have all had stretches of losing season and post-season flops. There are QBs we've discussed who won a single SB in Rodgers, Brees, Dilfer and then didn't win when they didn't have enough talent, so maybe Dalton is like them.  Dalton had one elite year in the NFL and instead of flopping in the SB he broke his thumb and ended up on the sideline.

To win in the NFL you need a lot of talent.  A QB accounts for a lot, but not everything.  The biggest thing seems to be ownership though.  That explains why virtually every franchise except the expansion Browns, the Bengals, and the Lions have managed to do something of note in the past 25 or so years. 

That's my take.  Is this a make or break year for Dalton?  Hardly.  By week 5 or 6 I expect our o-line or one of the coaches to be cited as "proof" that 2019 was a giant waste of time and no one could succeed here.  Marvin, Mike Brown, Zampese, the o-line, Austin, Lazor, Bratkowski, injuries and a slew of other people/circumstances have been cited as a means to put off "make or break" years for our QBs for (apparently) the past 50 years.

So it goes.
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Dalton's make or break year - Chezaugie - 07-09-2019, 01:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 10:19 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 08:10 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-11-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 12:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-11-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Yojimbo - 07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - HuDey - 07-09-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - McC - 07-09-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-09-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-10-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Au165 - 07-10-2019, 08:36 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-10-2019, 03:52 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-11-2019, 05:58 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-13-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 12:32 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 12:47 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-14-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:01 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:08 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 01:50 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-14-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-15-2019, 08:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 04:48 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 11:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-14-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 02:40 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Nately120 - 07-16-2019, 02:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:21 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-16-2019, 08:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-17-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-17-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-17-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-18-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-19-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:05 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-19-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 03:25 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-20-2019, 04:20 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 03:18 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:41 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 10:41 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-02-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-22-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-22-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 01:33 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-23-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:26 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-25-2019, 12:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-26-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 10:06 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 02:15 AM
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