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Dalton's make or break year
(07-21-2019, 04:59 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Can you win with an above average to good but not great QB in the NFL? Probably.

Can you win with inept management? Occasionally.

Can you win with average to above average coaching? Probably.

Can you win in the playoffs with all 3 of those things? No. Not consistently.

For anyone who questions why we have issues, look no further than free agency and somewhat the draft. Management had excitement with a new coach and absolutely tanked free agency. It was a tailor made opportunity to revitalize the fanbase.

Then during the draft, they reach for a blocking TE in the 2nd Round who didn't even think he'd go that high. Yes - We fans will give him the benefit of the doubt as that's what we do. But, it's not a good situation.

I doubt our coaching and management would've put a QB in position to even be elite. Take Drew Brees and swap him with Dalton during the Marv era. You think he's still 'Drew Brees' with Marv in place of Sean Payton? Payton is the one who turned him into the 5000 yard super bowl winner. He was "decent" in San Diego.

Now would Brees be better than Dalton? Probably, but not the elite guy we know now. So suggesting we need(ed) an elite QB to offset Marv/Mike is a non-starter IMO. You need good coaching/management to get a guy to reach elite status.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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Dalton's make or break year - Chezaugie - 07-09-2019, 01:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 10:19 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 08:10 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-11-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 12:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-11-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Yojimbo - 07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - HuDey - 07-09-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - McC - 07-09-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-09-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-10-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Au165 - 07-10-2019, 08:36 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-10-2019, 03:52 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-11-2019, 05:58 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-13-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 12:32 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 12:47 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-14-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:01 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:08 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 01:50 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-14-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-15-2019, 08:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 04:48 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 11:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-14-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 02:40 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:21 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-16-2019, 08:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-17-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-17-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-17-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-18-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-19-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:05 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-19-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 03:25 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 10:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-20-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 03:18 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 11:50 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-22-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-20-2019, 11:04 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 03:12 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:46 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 09:59 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-25-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-25-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 03:34 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 10:41 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-02-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Shake n Blake - 07-22-2019, 12:23 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-22-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-22-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 01:33 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-23-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-25-2019, 12:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-26-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-27-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-27-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 02:15 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-28-2019, 08:57 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 09:28 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-28-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 12:59 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 02:35 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 11:38 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:40 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:58 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-29-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 05:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 01:56 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:45 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 01:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-26-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 09:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-27-2019, 09:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-26-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 09-18-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-26-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 11:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-04-2019, 07:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-04-2019, 08:39 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 01:12 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-28-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-29-2019, 01:13 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-29-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-31-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-31-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:59 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 03:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-01-2019, 12:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-03-2019, 12:07 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-03-2019, 07:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-04-2019, 07:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-04-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 01:16 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 01:19 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-05-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 03:18 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-05-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-05-2019, 04:18 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 10:24 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-06-2019, 01:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:15 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:16 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:18 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-07-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:19 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-04-2019, 07:40 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-08-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 01:51 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-05-2019, 12:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:54 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-07-2019, 02:25 AM

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