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John Ross Haters
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(09-09-2019, 12:59 PM)McC Wrote: Hate might be too strong of a word.   At the very least, Marvin did seem to at least resent him.

I've said for a long time ML didn't go an inch out of his way to do Ross any favors. And I think the John Ross saga is the perfect illustration of the weakest part of ML's coaching abilities, or more precisely his coaching failures.

To be a great boss or NFL HC  you have to be able to read guys. Some need a tongue lashing on occasion, some need a kick in the behind, and some need reassuring and confidence building and it seems Ross falls into the later category.

I don't think ML even once tried to incorporate what Ross could do well into the game plan. ML said we're running our offense and you either fit in or else. He never once tried to build Ross's confidence.

And that was his way with the bulk of the players.

Who knows what happens with Ross moving forward ? But my confidence in him took a giant step forward yesterday.
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