06-15-2015, 06:56 AM
(06-15-2015, 06:47 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: According to the HBO viewers guide, Jon, Stannis, and the Lannister girl are dead.
Not sure if I completely buy into Stannis definitely being dead. Brienne tends to hesitate and she may have been caught off guard by how honorable Stannis was in his death sentence. Though the show really effed that character over. He's the greatest general/tactician in the world, and he roles up to the most fortified castle in Westeros with half an army and no horses? Clearly the show had him be very desperate and completely broken, but the degree to which his character changes is almost instant. So much build up to building this army that could actually defend the land from white walkers, or at least understands the real threat... and this is what happens?
Jon is definitely dead. But he can come back.
Yeah, I read a few articles where the producers are adamant Jon is dead - but that doesn't mean he's gone (not that they've hinted the character isn't gone). I think they are playing the technicality that the "Jon we know" is dead.
I haven't read the books, but I get the issues with Stannis. I'm also not convinced he's dead. While Brienne is dutiful, she also doesn't seem the type to murder a helpless man. But he has no army, and literally nothing now...difficult to see what purpose he'll serve if he's still alive. An interview I read with the actress that plays Brienne - she's convinced he's dead (not in a what she thinks sort of way, but what she knows). But I will say Stannis got his ass kicked at Westerios, so maybe that all really isn't that much of a stretch.
I think the Lannister girl is dead. That seems a given to advance [what I expect] the coming conflict between Dorne and Westerios.
And people forget Theon and Sansa jumping off the castle. I don't think they're dead, either.
