05-06-2016, 05:43 PM
(05-06-2016, 04:28 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Seems they are going to use Bran's newfound abilities to show flashback's and quickly fill in history (convenient plot device is convenient!). Interesting point about Robb thinking Bran and Rincon were dead.
And I've completely forgotten about Littlefinger! Past due to check in with him this week...Anyway, I disagree about them being the puppetmasters you claim. Littlefinger, I think, is mainly there to represent the power-grabbers trying to manipulate their way to higher class. Varys is more of a survivor who tries to identify the winners and align himself with them. In a world of magic and walking dead, I think those two have influence but no real power or control to change the will of the gods.
The more influence Littlefinger tries to exert, the more he will be on others' radar...and it will end badly for him. Dany has Tyrion and Varys to advise her, so Littlefinger can't manipulate that. And Jon appears to be above such manipulation, as well, especially with Sir Davos advising him.
Jon is no longer bound by oath, but I don't see him turning his attention away from the threat beyond the Wall unless something (or someone - a.k.a Sansa) does that. And even with Wildling army, what are we talking - 5,000 counting women and children? He's not going to do much with that. Although I could see much of the North following him voluntarily. Maybe then he seeks to unite Westerios against the threat behind the wall....so there's the rest of this season, ending with Dany arriving with her dragons.
My thoughts on that is base soley in the books. the TV show is just kinda fun to watch and not Cannon for me.
Littlefinger knows he himself cannot sit the iron throne... But he is working on putting someone he wants there. He thrives in chaos. the more he can pit the big 7 against each other the more room he has to work without being noticed.
Lysa Arryn killed her husband for little finger. Jon Arryns death is what triggered most of the current events in place. (plus centurys of bad blood between houses)
currently in the books at the end of 5. He is Warden over the Riverlands (fought for Robb) He has gained the loyalty of the Vale for the most part. (few loose ends there still) He got rid of Lysa. and now controls robin who he will likely get rid of soon enough.
His plans to marry Sansa to Harry the Heir Who is heir of the Vale after Little sickly Robin. This marrage is where he plans to reveal who Sansa is. and he asked her if retaking the north as a marrage gift...
Oh and hes master of Coin.. or was and he did a lot while there for his own gain.
So while he was work to do he has almost got himself a kingdom... The riverlands will run to the banner of the king of the north after what happened there. The remaining northerns most certainly would perfer the direwolf to the flayed man.
And little finger thru Sansa would control 3/7 kingdoms. At least that seems his plan.
Varys is another matter i dont have time to detail right now.
