12-25-2015, 03:16 PM
(12-24-2015, 08:21 PM)Hammerthis Wrote: No, they're not just speaking of our depth. This team will continue to win with AJ, Dalton or just about any NFL QB, we're just that loaded.
We just disagree. There's been many games that the Bengals wouldn't have won without Andy. The Baltimore and Seattle games instantly spring to mind. Dalton made some big time throws to win those games.
(12-25-2015, 09:47 AM)muskiesfan Wrote: I didn't say the Bengals didn't have talent. I said Bengals fans overvalue that talent with the exception of Andy Dalton. I'm sorry, there's just no argument that can be made for all of the offensive players being better than Dalton. There's just not. After AJ Green, Andy Dalton is the best offensive weapon this team has and it's not even close.
No doubt about it. I can't believe how undervalued Dalton is by some. His weapons are finally healthy and he plays like a top 3 QB. So now it's "his weapons make him better than he is". Brady's play has taken a major hit anytime he's been without Gronk or Edelman, etc. Do his weapons "make him"? Lets face it, people will say anything to avoid giving Dalton proper credit.
(12-25-2015, 02:53 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I am going to have to disagree with you on a couple points.. First Newton is having a MVP year.. Andy is having a great year... but to act like Cam has been so superior since they came in the league together is just not factually true. I have witnessed great games and terrible games by both players , I have seen Cam make terrible throws and terrible decisions just has I have seen Andy do the same.. I have seen Cam lead his team to late victories with some great plays and I have seen the same from Andy. You give to much credit to Cam for his abilities for a team success but too little credit to Andy for his abilities for a team success.
Finally one area that Cam has gotten a free pass on is playoff performance.. If he is so superior especially on the big stage why is he 1-2 in the playoffs ???
Great post. Look at the stats or watch all their games. They've had similar careers and it's undeniable really.
(12-25-2015, 02:57 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Put Andy on Carolina, take Newton away and Carolina would continue to win in the NFL
No doubt. Rivera is a great coach, they have a great defense, and Dalton is a winner.
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